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the smoke radio for the masses headline

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edition july 8

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1947 the army air forces has announced

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that a flying disc

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possession of the army

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if the game is rigged change the game

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i occasionally think how quickly our

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differences worldwide

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would vanish if we were facing an alien

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this is fade to black it's your host

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jimmy church

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on the game changer radio network and

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kgra

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i need your help to get to the year

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you're listening to fate to flag with

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jimmy church on the game changer network

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good evening nice

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how you doing how you doing

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fade to block bespoke radio

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154 days into the new year only 211 days

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enough for the radio voice stop that

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we are live from a bunker somewhere in

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a total undisclosed location but it is

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let's go got my van halen t-shirt on

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kind of hot here it is actually

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i'm ready i want to welcome everybody

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listening all around the world

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all across the united states hither and

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tether to and fro back and forth up and

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this is fade to black for kjcr the game

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i'm your host jimmy church what is

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cracking everybody how you doing

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all right tonight joining us

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case you haven't heard lou elizondo is

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we're going to be covering all of this

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dod drama we're going to be talking

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about 60 minutes tonight

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the uap task force report

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all that and much more and i was talking

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to lou

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uh right before the show i've got big

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news to report on on lou's side

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i wonder if he's listening he's got a

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he's like check this out john was like

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man look at lou

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so uh that's tonight tomorrow night

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right here ralph blumenthal and uh wow

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great show uh last night with lisa

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i really enjoyed that tonight luella

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lozano tomorrow night ralph blumenthal

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discussing his book about john mack it

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is called believer

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oh man bestseller yeah yeah that's

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no fader night this week and uh after

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uh no fade to black what i'm thinking

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about you know fade to black for a week

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and i thought to myself what if i just

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uh and and put it out there put it out

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on our podcast on

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on youtube and let it sit there let us

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sit there on spreaker

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and go on repeat no shows this week

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this week i'm thinking about doing that

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doing but then i am heading out uh

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saturday for ufo megacon

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and uh one week one week in laughlin

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looks like i'm working all week all

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so that um i arrive on saturday if any

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uh eight o'clock at night or so and then

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set up the booth um but anyway uh come

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saturday night okay

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everything kicks off on sunday morning

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um that's enough of that ufo megacon

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it's uh it's happening now so if you

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if you haven't made arrangements you

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haven't done anything yet the hotel sold

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and that's great news the hotel is so

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and there you go okay ufo mega account

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laughlin ufomegacon.com all right let's

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see here

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so what if i'm hearing is you got the rv

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buy me an rv if i don't do it

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i should do it now i should just do it

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i mean they're expensive but who cares

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i should get an rv yeah

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i should just buy an rv get a used one

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get a used one pretty cheap anybody out

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there selling an rv

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get a hold of me all right follow me on

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i'm in a great mood louis lozano's on

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and uh tomorrow night ralph blumenthal

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then i am going to take a

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and head out and hit the road um it's uh

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it's going to be great we finally got a

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real conference unbelievable

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february of 2020. we are

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in june people it was a year and a half

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crazy and especially when i think about

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um and it's been a year and a half

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uh email is jimmy jimmychurchradio.com

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hashtag f2b is the sandbox i was just

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show let me look at all of these

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troublemakers over here

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and uh i think we ran last night i i

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don't i think bill played hooky

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and uh the entire chat room ran without

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i took one like i was like man i can't i

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can't even mess with this

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they the the the inmates have taken over

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the prison

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but uh yeah we got bills over there now

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bill and who else is in there

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who else is in there with you bill

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there's somebody else oh ufo gandalf

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anyway hello to everybody out there

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and uh let's get this show cracking

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let's get to the breaking news

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uh see if i can pronounce this right

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latorria mira a new frog species that

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has been recently discovered is

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queensland museum scientists as

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the chocolate frog lead author dr

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paul oliver who is a joint appointment

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with the queensland museum and griffith

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they started calling it a chocolate frog

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and the name just stuck

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steve richards from the south australian

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who was a co-author on the paper said

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that the researchers thought that the

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now the new paper was published recently

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journal of zoology and it is

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indeed pretty cute too dude smiles

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little chocolate frog

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like a green tree frog but chocolate

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milk chocolate it's pretty cool um

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i made this announcement earlier today

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tom delong

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has put his idlewild vacation home

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up for sale adjacent to clark gables

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mountain getaway i don't know how

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adjacent it is because i looked it up on

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earth and was checking it out he ain't

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got no neighbors there's nobody around

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but anyway allegedly uh adjacent to

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clark gables mountain getaway

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the home was designed by famed architect

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remodeling both the home and property

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even adding a pool and a spa that three

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acre property is being sold

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fully furnished all furniture everything

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even the dishes and also a million

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of ttsa socks i'm just saying i'm just

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saying for two million two hundred

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ninety five thousand dollars

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it's a pretty nice pad it's a pretty

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nice pad i'm kidding about

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the uh ttsa stock maybe all right

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on the morning i'm going to leave tom to

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why is he selling the pad i think it's

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um from what i read and found out he

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there you go so on the morning of june

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it's coming up what's today today's the

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on the morning of june 10th this june

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the darkened new moon will slide in

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front of the sun

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resulting in a partial solar eclipse

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that will be visible from north america

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for some very lucky sky watchers in a

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the most dramatic part of the show which

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the ring of fire the effect that comes

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from the moon covering all

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but the edges of the sun now

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here's the bad news the best cities

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to view in north america where you're

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gonna get a pretty

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good eclipse just in one line

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pittsburgh detroit toronto and thunder

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that's it that's it if you're out west

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you got nothing that's right

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it's gonna admit just it's gonna be like

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you're not gonna see anything

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not gonna see anything you gotta be in

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detroit

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all right amazon i don't know if you

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guys caught this news today

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amazon is going to let you smoke pot

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that's right amazon is relaxing its

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policy around employees using

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weed the mary jane the marijuana

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according to a new blog post and will no

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longer enforce

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marijuana marijuana drug test for any

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employee

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who isn't also regulated by the

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department of transportation like

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delivery drivers

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in the past amazon used positive tests

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as a reason to disqualify

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applicants during the hiring process

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what they found out

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everybody was high they couldn't hire

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anybody

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as weed is legalized for recreational

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and medicinal use state by state across

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the united states

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dave clark amazon's ceo of worldwide

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consumer

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is acknowledging officially that the

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average employee probably uses the

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marijuana in the same casual way

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we are in a new time and place aren't we

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all right finally i'm going to leave you

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with this

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twitter today

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the fda that is the food and drug

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administration

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shared on twitter this and i

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quote don't eat cicadas

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if you're allergic to seafood as

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these insects share a family relation to

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shrimp and lobsters

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that's right who is eating cicadas so i

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i saw the i saw it i saw it all

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cicada tacos

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[Music]

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no up in my mouth a little bit like

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you know just a you know little it came

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right up

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that is nasty i ain't gonna do it

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grasshop no

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no no no no i'm not gonna do it not

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gonna do it let's get this show cracking

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happy birthday to today

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justin long justin long is 43.

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cool guy i hung out with him once uh

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justin long is 43

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great in galaxy quest i mean everybody

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was great in galaxy quest but justin

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long's part

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jeepers creepers the movie scared the

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crap out of me

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justin long43 be real pothead

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of cypress hill is 51

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and of course rolling stone charlie

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watts

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today is 80. wasn't it ronnie woods

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birthday like

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yesterday ah i just thought about that

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our dead guy's birthday today is marvin

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hamlisch

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that's right 1944-1912

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and uh marvin uh

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i'm gonna have to fire my riders marvin

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was a composer was one of only 16 people

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to win an emmy a grammy an oscar and a

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tony award

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right one of 16. but and that is

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referred to as the

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egot right four

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he is one of only two people

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to have won those four prizes

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and a pulitzer or a pgot

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that's right marvin's adaptations of

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scott

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joplin's ragtime music for the sting

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great movie

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including its theme song the entertainer

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hit number one on billboard's adult

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contemporary chart and number three on

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the hot

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in 1973 he won two academy awards one

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for the way we were

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and the other one for the sting after a

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brief

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illness on august dude he did like uh

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nobody does it better right uh uh

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no one's as good as you um double 07.

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the spy who loved me

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you know that's marvin hamlisch well

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anyway after a brief illness on august 6

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2012 hamlisch collapsed and died

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in los angeles at the age of 68.

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on this day in history otd 1997 you

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remember this

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timothy mcveigh is convicted on 15

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counts of murder and conspiracy

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for his role in the 1995 terrorist

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bombing of the alfred p

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murrah federal building in oklahoma city

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fader fact all right you sitting down i

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this fader fact was so good

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i sent it to renee today that's how good

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this fader fact is

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that's right she sent me a fader fact i

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said mine

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trumps yours renee check this out

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i'll yours is great that's for tomorrow

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today it's this fader fact

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teflon was introduced by dupont

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in nonstick cookware in 1946

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and has been linked to many diseases

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it never breaks down in the environment

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and is now

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present in the blood of nearly

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every american adult and newborn baby

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holy crap that's your fader fact write

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that down

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yeah dupont tonight very special guest

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lou elizondo is here we're going to be

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covering all of that dod

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drama folks we're going to talk about 60

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minutes and

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the uaptf report that is

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allegedly going to happen sometime this

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month in june we'll find out about all

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of that

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tomorrow night ralph blumenthal joins us

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for the first time to discuss his new

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book john mack about john mack

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called the believer and uh

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i had another announcement i wanted to

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do right now

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i spaced it okay all right

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i was watching um earlier today i was

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over checking out christina gomez

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christina if you're listening

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if you're hanging out right now uh that

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was pretty good i was pretty good today

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doing that uso thing

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i caught that christina i got that can't

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make those kind of mistakes

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no i'm just teasing that that was

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excellent

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oh man that was a good presentation that

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was that was solid

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river moon wellness river moon coffee

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fade to black blend all right

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promo code f2b blend 15 off of your

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order today

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let's see here lu

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[Music]

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elizondo

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so many out there

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on negativity

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oh really no audio except on youtube

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huh hang on

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let's see if i can do this again

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huh i don't know what to say

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it's solid over here i'm just gonna do a

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looks like it's going now

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uh-huh all right

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i'll edit this later all right

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all right it's going now it's going now

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all right all right i don't know why

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i don't know sometimes things just lock

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up

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um anyway so many people out there today

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survive on negativity

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and i just posted my troll be gone

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rant over on facebook

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and i did that yesterday and i seriously

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don't have time for trolls these days or

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those who think that it's cool to talk

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smack

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on my time on my feed

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you don't have the right to do it just

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because i'm out there

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um in social media it doesn't mean that

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you have the right

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to come in and and be a dick it it just

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doesn't work that way

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and i don't have time for it i don't

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read it in the second anything

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i just block done delete

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i delete comments and over in facebook

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and delete the comments

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you know block delete delete i just i i

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don't care you don't have the right

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you have the right to do whatever you

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want on your own page you can say

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whatever you want in my world of my time

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but it's going on right now right here

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in real time in our community

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and not that it hasn't always gone on

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because it has but just like the rest of

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the country

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right and the rest of the world

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everything is about causing a divide

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i was out to dinner a couple days ago

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and uh what's today wednesday was sunday

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and uh um

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and i was having a conversation with

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people that i just met

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and this this subject came up right the

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great divide

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and it's not it's not

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it's not one specific thing it's

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everything now is supposed to be

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society is you are supposed to hate

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everybody that's right you're supposed

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to talk smack

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about everybody it doesn't matter what

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the subject is

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that's it i don't know how we got here

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i remember the comments i got from

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leading researchers in our community

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back in the day

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nothing but smack talk and

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not from all of them there were some

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exceptions

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but honestly it was pretty much

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everybody

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coming from some pretty nice people too

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and it's like wow whoa

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whoa whoa whoa you know um i was out of

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town i was at a conference

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leading researcher nice person

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comes up to me and says i'm not going to

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do

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a panel with that person i was like

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what's going on man

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i was so shocked and

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you want a perfect example of how this

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actually

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works inside of our community

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00:26:04,950 --> 00:26:02,799
right now you want a perfect example

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00:26:07,269 --> 00:26:04,960
how it starts at the top works its way

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down spreads its way across

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00:26:10,549 --> 00:26:09,200
i'll give it to you we're going to be

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talking about this tonight with lou

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elizondo

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00:26:15,750 --> 00:26:13,279
because right now what's happening with

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the pentagon in lou

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serious smack talk i mean

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of the real kind and

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00:26:29,510 --> 00:26:25,600
that smack talk which

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00:26:32,390 --> 00:26:29,520
is not only it's like hypocritical

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it's a hypocritical paradox because it's

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it's going

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back and forth saying two things

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00:26:42,710 --> 00:26:40,240
at the same time one is either a lie

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one is the truth or this is a lie and

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this is the truth it doesn't matter but

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00:26:52,470 --> 00:26:49,039
this is a cyclical thing

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00:26:52,950 --> 00:26:52,480
it's a circular argument and it starts

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00:26:55,350 --> 00:26:52,960
there

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goes right down into the community and

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00:27:02,230 --> 00:26:58,640
then the community doesn't even know

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00:27:05,029 --> 00:27:02,240
what to fight about

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00:27:06,149 --> 00:27:05,039
and then it comes back into twitter

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00:27:08,470 --> 00:27:06,159
comes into facebook

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00:27:09,590 --> 00:27:08,480
it comes in the post it comes here it's

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00:27:12,149 --> 00:27:09,600
there

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00:27:13,909 --> 00:27:12,159
and everybody's talking smack

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00:27:14,630 --> 00:27:13,919
everybody's taking sides and they don't

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00:27:18,230 --> 00:27:14,640
even know

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00:27:21,269 --> 00:27:18,240
why it's crazy

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00:27:21,669 --> 00:27:21,279
it's absolutely insane and what is going

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00:27:25,029 --> 00:27:21,679
on

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00:27:27,830 --> 00:27:25,039
in our community this stuff and it's

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00:27:29,269 --> 00:27:27,840
everywhere i'm blocking on this and that

565
00:27:31,269 --> 00:27:29,279
i'm just like

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00:27:32,310 --> 00:27:31,279
what are you doing coming in here

567
00:27:35,590 --> 00:27:32,320
talking smack

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00:27:38,230 --> 00:27:35,600
about and it's made up smack it's just

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just just just trying to just start a

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fire

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00:27:45,510 --> 00:27:42,640
it's funny it's funny and

572
00:27:47,430 --> 00:27:45,520
that microcosm of our little community

573
00:27:49,750 --> 00:27:47,440
doing what it's doing

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00:27:50,630 --> 00:27:49,760
at a moment of some you know some

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success

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00:27:54,470 --> 00:27:53,360
in our community where we should be

577
00:27:57,430 --> 00:27:54,480
actually happy

578
00:27:59,029 --> 00:27:57,440
and all on the same side but we're not

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00:28:00,470 --> 00:27:59,039
it's the same thing that's going on

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00:28:03,110 --> 00:28:00,480
across the country across the world

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about anything doesn't matter dogs cats

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pies ice cream democrat republican

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religion

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lbgq thing black white red

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crazy this that everybody automobiles

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00:28:19,110 --> 00:28:15,360
planes

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00:28:22,870 --> 00:28:19,120
ships trash garbage it doesn't matter

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00:28:25,510 --> 00:28:22,880
everybody hates everybody right now

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00:28:27,269 --> 00:28:25,520
and it's it's it's insane to me it's

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insane

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00:28:33,269 --> 00:28:30,799
so that's it and i remember uh

592
00:28:34,470 --> 00:28:33,279
talking about this probably five years

593
00:28:36,950 --> 00:28:34,480
ago

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00:28:37,510 --> 00:28:36,960
when and i know all of you remember this

595
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block

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00:28:52,230 --> 00:28:51,279
it was it was kind of funny today you

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00:28:55,990 --> 00:28:52,240
just have to

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live like that how do we get here

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00:29:03,190 --> 00:28:59,440
why does somebody think it's okay

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to just you know some keyboard commando

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00:29:07,669 --> 00:29:04,720
say something that they would never say

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00:29:10,830 --> 00:29:07,679
to your face no

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00:29:12,389 --> 00:29:10,840
no we'd never do it but behind that

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00:29:15,590 --> 00:29:12,399
keyboard oh it's

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00:29:17,110 --> 00:29:15,600
this it's okay no it's not

606
00:29:20,230 --> 00:29:17,120
no it's not so we're going to talk about

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00:29:23,590 --> 00:29:20,240
all of that and it's not just me

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00:29:27,029 --> 00:29:23,600
it's not just you think about what lou

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is going through right now think about

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that we're going to talk about all of

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that and much

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more this is fade to black i am your

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host jimmy church tonight lou elizondo

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tomorrow night

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ralph blumenthal what a great week what

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a great week i'm going to take a little

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breath

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on friday and then hitting the road

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church on the game changer network and

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short break with lou elizondo stay with

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and kgra the planet

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hi this is rob reiner from anvil and

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you're listening to jimmy

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jimmychurchradio.com

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what's up i'm chris what up this is kyle

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all right welcome back fade to black i

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00:36:15,430 --> 00:36:12,160
am your host jimmy church tonight lou

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00:36:17,349 --> 00:36:15,440
elizondo is back with us tonight

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00:36:19,510 --> 00:36:17,359
tonight we're going to do the soap opera

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we're going to discuss the latest dod

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drama

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00:36:25,589 --> 00:36:23,839
his deleted emails 60 minutes and the

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upcoming uaptf

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special report it's going to be a full

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00:36:31,829 --> 00:36:29,119
night uh tonight

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00:36:32,150 --> 00:36:31,839
lou and i will probably run out of time

766
00:36:34,069 --> 00:36:32,160
but

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00:36:35,270 --> 00:36:34,079
it's going to be a great conversation of

768
00:36:37,030 --> 00:36:35,280
course louis

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00:36:38,710 --> 00:36:37,040
lou elizando is the former director of

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00:36:40,550 --> 00:36:38,720
the advanced aerospace threat

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00:36:41,829 --> 00:36:40,560
identification program otherwise known

772
00:36:44,710 --> 00:36:41,839
as atip

773
00:36:46,790 --> 00:36:44,720
the senior senior counterintelligence

774
00:36:48,470 --> 00:36:46,800
officer for the department of defense he

775
00:36:49,430 --> 00:36:48,480
operated throughout afghanistan the

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00:36:51,990 --> 00:36:49,440
middle east

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00:36:52,710 --> 00:36:52,000
and latin america not according to his

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00:36:55,829 --> 00:36:52,720
high school

779
00:36:58,069 --> 00:36:55,839
yearbook picture he is a trained special

780
00:36:59,910 --> 00:36:58,079
agent who has led countless tactical and

781
00:37:02,230 --> 00:36:59,920
strategic missions

782
00:37:04,150 --> 00:37:02,240
both during wartime and at times of

783
00:37:07,109 --> 00:37:04,160
peace but not according

784
00:37:08,470 --> 00:37:07,119
to his yearbook picture i want to bring

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00:37:10,230 --> 00:37:08,480
back

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00:37:12,630 --> 00:37:10,240
to the show lou alexander lou how you

787
00:37:13,910 --> 00:37:12,640
doing man thanks jimmy it's great to be

788
00:37:16,390 --> 00:37:13,920
back and uh

789
00:37:18,470 --> 00:37:16,400
you know unfortunately um i there are

790
00:37:20,470 --> 00:37:18,480
some memories that we work hard to try

791
00:37:23,910 --> 00:37:20,480
to erase from our minds

792
00:37:26,230 --> 00:37:23,920
uh and and spend sometimes decades

793
00:37:27,190 --> 00:37:26,240
uh blocking those memories and thanks to

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00:37:28,950 --> 00:37:27,200
you jimmy

795
00:37:30,550 --> 00:37:28,960
uh those memories are now front and

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00:37:33,030 --> 00:37:30,560
center once again so

797
00:37:34,870 --> 00:37:33,040
uh i i appreciate that the only

798
00:37:37,670 --> 00:37:34,880
consolation is knowing that

799
00:37:39,510 --> 00:37:37,680
uh you were forthcoming enough to share

800
00:37:42,230 --> 00:37:39,520
your high school photo

801
00:37:43,750 --> 00:37:42,240
and i'm really i'm really not sure which

802
00:37:44,790 --> 00:37:43,760
one is worse i think we're not going to

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00:37:46,630 --> 00:37:44,800
have to let your

804
00:37:49,990 --> 00:37:46,640
your audience decide that you know what

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00:37:58,790 --> 00:37:50,000
it was a tie

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00:38:00,069 --> 00:37:58,800
i'm here for the community lou i'm here

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00:38:02,069 --> 00:38:00,079
for the community

808
00:38:03,910 --> 00:38:02,079
and it was funny if you know what if

809
00:38:05,589 --> 00:38:03,920
we're gonna just throw it out there i

810
00:38:05,990 --> 00:38:05,599
just might as well take one for the team

811
00:38:08,150 --> 00:38:06,000
too

812
00:38:09,190 --> 00:38:08,160
as well and let the chips fall where

813
00:38:11,510 --> 00:38:09,200
they may

814
00:38:13,270 --> 00:38:11,520
uh but yeah there you go so oh i

815
00:38:16,630 --> 00:38:13,280
appreciate it you know those those were

816
00:38:18,710 --> 00:38:16,640
uh those were how to say

817
00:38:20,390 --> 00:38:18,720
awkward years right i try to choose my

818
00:38:21,910 --> 00:38:20,400
words carefully so i'll just i'll just

819
00:38:22,710 --> 00:38:21,920
i'll just use the word awkward how about

820
00:38:26,150 --> 00:38:22,720
that yeah let's

821
00:38:29,270 --> 00:38:26,160
let's leave it right there and uh um

822
00:38:32,470 --> 00:38:29,280
it was a lot of fun posting that and uh

823
00:38:33,109 --> 00:38:32,480
uh for everybody to uh to comment i

824
00:38:36,950 --> 00:38:33,119
think that

825
00:38:39,750 --> 00:38:36,960
uh you know how do i say this we grow up

826
00:38:41,270 --> 00:38:39,760
into who we are today right we do we and

827
00:38:43,430 --> 00:38:41,280
we have an image

828
00:38:44,870 --> 00:38:43,440
and people appreciate that they hear us

829
00:38:45,990 --> 00:38:44,880
speak and everything but you know what

830
00:38:49,910 --> 00:38:46,000
we all went to high school

831
00:38:52,230 --> 00:38:49,920
too we did we did and some of us got

832
00:38:55,430 --> 00:38:52,240
beat up more than others

833
00:38:57,349 --> 00:38:55,440
i mean me being one of those i'm sure i

834
00:39:00,230 --> 00:38:57,359
remember when i when i did the caption

835
00:39:02,230 --> 00:39:00,240
for you and again we've got a lot to

836
00:39:03,030 --> 00:39:02,240
discuss tonight but i think this is more

837
00:39:05,109 --> 00:39:03,040
important

838
00:39:06,069 --> 00:39:05,119
what i did when i did the capture for

839
00:39:07,910 --> 00:39:06,079
you i said

840
00:39:09,910 --> 00:39:07,920
who would have thought that this guy was

841
00:39:11,829 --> 00:39:09,920
going to grow up and change the world

842
00:39:13,349 --> 00:39:11,839
you know i had to go i had to just go

843
00:39:15,750 --> 00:39:13,359
there i had to

844
00:39:18,069 --> 00:39:15,760
yeah uh well you know certainly uh

845
00:39:20,310 --> 00:39:18,079
judging by it by that photograph

846
00:39:21,430 --> 00:39:20,320
uh i i'm surprised i made it this far

847
00:39:25,190 --> 00:39:21,440
are you blushing

848
00:39:27,589 --> 00:39:25,200
little bit

849
00:39:29,510 --> 00:39:27,599
again like i said some of us tried to

850
00:39:31,750 --> 00:39:29,520
repress our memories of war some of us

851
00:39:33,910 --> 00:39:31,760
try to repress memories of divorce

852
00:39:36,230 --> 00:39:33,920
uh in my case i try to repress my

853
00:39:36,710 --> 00:39:36,240
memories of of my senior year in high

854
00:39:38,550 --> 00:39:36,720
school

855
00:39:40,950 --> 00:39:38,560
uh i just like to pretend it didn't

856
00:39:43,510 --> 00:39:40,960
happen it didn't exist it just

857
00:39:45,510 --> 00:39:43,520
wasn't there and that photograph you

858
00:39:46,470 --> 00:39:45,520
know all i can say man it just brings

859
00:39:49,349 --> 00:39:46,480
back uh

860
00:39:50,230 --> 00:39:49,359
a whole uh a whole flood of uh of of

861
00:39:53,589 --> 00:39:50,240
memories

862
00:39:55,510 --> 00:39:53,599
when i tell you lou when i texted you

863
00:39:57,270 --> 00:39:55,520
um i've got your high school yearbook

864
00:39:58,790 --> 00:39:57,280
picture

865
00:40:00,230 --> 00:39:58,800
what went through your mind you hit me

866
00:40:01,109 --> 00:40:00,240
back pretty quick but what went through

867
00:40:02,630 --> 00:40:01,119
your mind

868
00:40:04,550 --> 00:40:02,640
well initially i wanted to know how much

869
00:40:06,069 --> 00:40:04,560
i had to pay you off not to show it

870
00:40:07,670 --> 00:40:06,079
you know because i'm used to dealing

871
00:40:09,270 --> 00:40:07,680
with with you know foreign intelligence

872
00:40:11,589 --> 00:40:09,280
services and look let's face it they all

873
00:40:13,030 --> 00:40:11,599
have their price eventually right

874
00:40:14,710 --> 00:40:13,040
if you make it high enough they'll

875
00:40:17,430 --> 00:40:14,720
eventually say yes

876
00:40:18,790 --> 00:40:17,440
uh but in this case uh i realized very

877
00:40:19,910 --> 00:40:18,800
quickly that there probably wasn't

878
00:40:21,750 --> 00:40:19,920
enough money

879
00:40:24,230 --> 00:40:21,760
uh that i had that was going to be able

880
00:40:25,990 --> 00:40:24,240
to bribe you so that was good

881
00:40:28,230 --> 00:40:26,000
it was getting posted yeah it was

882
00:40:31,990 --> 00:40:28,240
getting posted one way or another

883
00:40:35,910 --> 00:40:32,000
so um now uh part of this is what

884
00:40:39,990 --> 00:40:35,920
uh is interesting because i posted up

885
00:40:42,710 --> 00:40:40,000
uh those pictures and the

886
00:40:43,270 --> 00:40:42,720
uh you and i are doing an event uh

887
00:40:46,950 --> 00:40:43,280
together

888
00:40:47,750 --> 00:40:46,960
on july 17th and uh i'm very excited

889
00:40:51,190 --> 00:40:47,760
about that

890
00:40:52,309 --> 00:40:51,200
and uh so that went out the pictures

891
00:40:55,670 --> 00:40:52,319
went out

892
00:40:57,589 --> 00:40:55,680
and suddenly and this show is is coming

893
00:41:00,710 --> 00:40:57,599
up uh tonight

894
00:41:04,790 --> 00:41:00,720
and the the great divide right

895
00:41:08,069 --> 00:41:04,800
where uh members of the community uh

896
00:41:11,670 --> 00:41:08,079
want to cause angst

897
00:41:14,550 --> 00:41:11,680
and complain i'm sure you got your share

898
00:41:15,750 --> 00:41:14,560
of of emails and things you know what

899
00:41:18,710 --> 00:41:15,760
are you doing

900
00:41:20,790 --> 00:41:18,720
and the same thing here on my end where

901
00:41:21,829 --> 00:41:20,800
i was getting oh so now you're cozying

902
00:41:24,470 --> 00:41:21,839
up with the

903
00:41:26,470 --> 00:41:24,480
ttsa uh counter intelligence

904
00:41:27,829 --> 00:41:26,480
professional man you're a shell

905
00:41:30,150 --> 00:41:27,839
and i'm getting i'm just like you know

906
00:41:32,470 --> 00:41:30,160
what i i don't have time for this

907
00:41:33,910 --> 00:41:32,480
exactly and and by the way for the

908
00:41:35,430 --> 00:41:33,920
record i'm a coffee drinker i actually

909
00:41:37,109 --> 00:41:35,440
like your coffee so

910
00:41:38,710 --> 00:41:37,119
you know i mean i'm latin we drink

911
00:41:39,990 --> 00:41:38,720
coffee all the time so people are like

912
00:41:41,349 --> 00:41:40,000
hey lou what are you doing he sells

913
00:41:42,309 --> 00:41:41,359
coffee i'm like well that's great i buy

914
00:41:44,150 --> 00:41:42,319
coffee so

915
00:41:45,510 --> 00:41:44,160
what's your problem i mean we both want

916
00:41:46,550 --> 00:41:45,520
disclosure we're both looking for the

917
00:41:48,550 --> 00:41:46,560
same thing

918
00:41:50,069 --> 00:41:48,560
uh you know and i think it's okay to dis

919
00:41:53,270 --> 00:41:50,079
you know to agree to disagree look

920
00:41:54,950 --> 00:41:53,280
the bottom line is is i jimmy you have a

921
00:41:56,790 --> 00:41:54,960
tremendous following and you have some

922
00:41:59,109 --> 00:41:56,800
very very smart people

923
00:42:00,790 --> 00:41:59,119
that that listen to you and and we need

924
00:42:01,990 --> 00:42:00,800
them on board we collectively all of us

925
00:42:03,349 --> 00:42:02,000
you me all of us

926
00:42:05,109 --> 00:42:03,359
and i think you and i are working

927
00:42:06,390 --> 00:42:05,119
towards the same thing ultimately we

928
00:42:08,470 --> 00:42:06,400
want our government to be

929
00:42:10,069 --> 00:42:08,480
transparent and truthful about about

930
00:42:11,910 --> 00:42:10,079
this incredible enigma right that we're

931
00:42:13,829 --> 00:42:11,920
both we're both passionate about

932
00:42:15,670 --> 00:42:13,839
and on my side i've got some some

933
00:42:16,470 --> 00:42:15,680
incredible talent i mean absolutely

934
00:42:18,230 --> 00:42:16,480
incredible talent

935
00:42:19,750 --> 00:42:18,240
honestly if i was if i was still working

936
00:42:21,030 --> 00:42:19,760
in the government in that capacity i

937
00:42:21,910 --> 00:42:21,040
probably would hire half of them to come

938
00:42:23,829 --> 00:42:21,920
work for me

939
00:42:25,589 --> 00:42:23,839
because they're that good um the problem

940
00:42:26,950 --> 00:42:25,599
is that there's a lot of emotion

941
00:42:28,630 --> 00:42:26,960
wrapped up and there's also a lot of

942
00:42:30,870 --> 00:42:28,640
history i get it i

943
00:42:32,150 --> 00:42:30,880
i am the new kid on the block uh never

944
00:42:33,750 --> 00:42:32,160
intended to to

945
00:42:35,430 --> 00:42:33,760
to be the new kid i just just kind of

946
00:42:38,630 --> 00:42:35,440
fell that way but i think

947
00:42:41,349 --> 00:42:38,640
i think we i think we can achieve more

948
00:42:42,870 --> 00:42:41,359
when we work together and if we can put

949
00:42:45,510 --> 00:42:42,880
away our aside our

950
00:42:46,790 --> 00:42:45,520
our our silly petty differences look

951
00:42:47,750 --> 00:42:46,800
it's it's it's no different than a

952
00:42:49,030 --> 00:42:47,760
marriage it's no different than a

953
00:42:51,109 --> 00:42:49,040
relationship right

954
00:42:52,870 --> 00:42:51,119
it's built on a mutual respect you don't

955
00:42:54,470 --> 00:42:52,880
always agree with your spouse or your

956
00:42:56,870 --> 00:42:54,480
boyfriend or your girlfriend

957
00:42:57,990 --> 00:42:56,880
uh but but there's there's a level of

958
00:42:59,910 --> 00:42:58,000
respect there and

959
00:43:01,190 --> 00:42:59,920
if both of you are working towards the

960
00:43:02,870 --> 00:43:01,200
same goal then

961
00:43:05,349 --> 00:43:02,880
then then it's a match made in heaven

962
00:43:07,990 --> 00:43:05,359
and i don't i don't understand why

963
00:43:09,750 --> 00:43:08,000
why people can't see that personalities

964
00:43:11,190 --> 00:43:09,760
aside look i rub people the wrong way

965
00:43:13,349 --> 00:43:11,200
i'm sure you rub people the wrong way

966
00:43:14,870 --> 00:43:13,359
too but at the end of the day we're both

967
00:43:17,670 --> 00:43:14,880
trying to achieve the same

968
00:43:18,309 --> 00:43:17,680
goal and we're doing it for everybody as

969
00:43:21,109 --> 00:43:18,319
well

970
00:43:22,790 --> 00:43:21,119
so i hope that people can truly put away

971
00:43:24,230 --> 00:43:22,800
some of their petty differences

972
00:43:25,750 --> 00:43:24,240
uh you know people are going to come

973
00:43:26,069 --> 00:43:25,760
back and say well lou you don't well you

974
00:43:27,430 --> 00:43:26,079
know

975
00:43:29,589 --> 00:43:27,440
look when people take shots at me

976
00:43:31,109 --> 00:43:29,599
constantly and eventually i'm gonna i'm

977
00:43:31,510 --> 00:43:31,119
gonna throw back i'm gonna throw a punch

978
00:43:33,109 --> 00:43:31,520
back

979
00:43:34,950 --> 00:43:33,119
i try not to i try to be professional

980
00:43:37,270 --> 00:43:34,960
and be above that but at some point

981
00:43:39,589 --> 00:43:37,280
after three years of of other folks

982
00:43:40,309 --> 00:43:39,599
uh not trying to work together then at

983
00:43:41,430 --> 00:43:40,319
that point

984
00:43:43,750 --> 00:43:41,440
you know you have to kind of cut the

985
00:43:46,150 --> 00:43:43,760
loss but in this case i haven't seen

986
00:43:46,790 --> 00:43:46,160
that i've seen a deliberate attempt by

987
00:43:49,430 --> 00:43:46,800
you to

988
00:43:50,950 --> 00:43:49,440
ask some very pointed questions uh

989
00:43:52,630 --> 00:43:50,960
you've made it very clear to me that you

990
00:43:54,470 --> 00:43:52,640
haven't always agreed with me

991
00:43:56,550 --> 00:43:54,480
on a lot of things i'm totally cool with

992
00:43:58,630 --> 00:43:56,560
that but you at least were honest about

993
00:44:00,390 --> 00:43:58,640
it you at least told me to my face

994
00:44:01,829 --> 00:44:00,400
and i can respect that and i can say

995
00:44:03,589 --> 00:44:01,839
well look you know maybe i can

996
00:44:05,670 --> 00:44:03,599
i can do something different or i can

997
00:44:07,349 --> 00:44:05,680
work harder to maybe you know gain that

998
00:44:08,790 --> 00:44:07,359
trust and respect of yours

999
00:44:10,550 --> 00:44:08,800
from that from that perspective so we

1000
00:44:12,950 --> 00:44:10,560
can work together at the end of the day

1001
00:44:15,109 --> 00:44:12,960
that's all i really want and my

1002
00:44:16,390 --> 00:44:15,119
i guess my my own feelings towards

1003
00:44:17,589 --> 00:44:16,400
things at the end of the day

1004
00:44:20,230 --> 00:44:17,599
is rather irrelevant what's more

1005
00:44:21,990 --> 00:44:20,240
important is us trying to to work

1006
00:44:24,470 --> 00:44:22,000
together for the same cause i feel

1007
00:44:25,910 --> 00:44:24,480
i feel like we're we're two to two

1008
00:44:28,390 --> 00:44:25,920
lieutenants on the battlefield

1009
00:44:29,829 --> 00:44:28,400
sure and you know our platoons are are

1010
00:44:32,150 --> 00:44:29,839
are working for the same

1011
00:44:33,589 --> 00:44:32,160
um we're working for for the same

1012
00:44:36,150 --> 00:44:33,599
objective

1013
00:44:36,870 --> 00:44:36,160
why are we wasting our time you know

1014
00:44:38,630 --> 00:44:36,880
spending

1015
00:44:40,230 --> 00:44:38,640
valuable ammunition on each other when

1016
00:44:41,589 --> 00:44:40,240
we can be using it towards you know the

1017
00:44:42,309 --> 00:44:41,599
collective goal and so that's kind of

1018
00:44:44,309 --> 00:44:42,319
the way i look at it

1019
00:44:46,069 --> 00:44:44,319
you know there is uh one of the best

1020
00:44:47,670 --> 00:44:46,079
examples i can give of that

1021
00:44:49,910 --> 00:44:47,680
and then i want to jump straight to

1022
00:44:50,950 --> 00:44:49,920
these emails because that's exactly what

1023
00:44:54,470 --> 00:44:50,960
we're talking about

1024
00:44:57,030 --> 00:44:54,480
uh actually which is which is this

1025
00:44:57,670 --> 00:44:57,040
richard dolan who is one of my closest

1026
00:45:01,430 --> 00:44:57,680
friends

1027
00:45:05,190 --> 00:45:01,440
and and things richard and i agree

1028
00:45:07,190 --> 00:45:05,200
about 50 of the time the rest of it

1029
00:45:08,390 --> 00:45:07,200
him and i are arguing you should hear

1030
00:45:11,750 --> 00:45:08,400
the phone calls lou

1031
00:45:14,870 --> 00:45:11,760
i mean it is brutal but

1032
00:45:15,750 --> 00:45:14,880
we respect each other and we do have a

1033
00:45:17,670 --> 00:45:15,760
common goal

1034
00:45:19,190 --> 00:45:17,680
and we're always moving forward we're

1035
00:45:22,390 --> 00:45:19,200
pushing forward

1036
00:45:25,030 --> 00:45:22,400
but we agree on on i said 50

1037
00:45:25,750 --> 00:45:25,040
i think we agree on nearly nothing you

1038
00:45:28,630 --> 00:45:25,760
know but we

1039
00:45:30,309 --> 00:45:28,640
respect each other and and that's okay i

1040
00:45:32,309 --> 00:45:30,319
learned from him he learns from me he

1041
00:45:36,470 --> 00:45:32,319
learns from the audience whatever

1042
00:45:39,270 --> 00:45:36,480
but um we we get along and we're such

1043
00:45:40,630 --> 00:45:39,280
great friends and the funny thing is we

1044
00:45:43,510 --> 00:45:40,640
agree on nearly

1045
00:45:44,390 --> 00:45:43,520
nothing that's that sounds like most

1046
00:45:47,190 --> 00:45:44,400
marriages

1047
00:45:48,390 --> 00:45:47,200
it's in a strange way i'm kind of

1048
00:45:53,670 --> 00:45:48,400
talking about that

1049
00:45:55,109 --> 00:45:53,680
so um you get into the ufo community

1050
00:45:58,230 --> 00:45:55,119
which is a live

1051
00:45:58,630 --> 00:45:58,240
minefield right you've got to watch your

1052
00:46:01,829 --> 00:45:58,640
step

1053
00:46:05,030 --> 00:46:01,839
all the way through and um

1054
00:46:07,990 --> 00:46:05,040
nearly out of the gate the volleys

1055
00:46:09,190 --> 00:46:08,000
were coming from your old employer right

1056
00:46:12,550 --> 00:46:09,200
they're they're

1057
00:46:16,069 --> 00:46:12,560
they're lobbing mortars um

1058
00:46:18,069 --> 00:46:16,079
at you and you've got to deal with that

1059
00:46:19,750 --> 00:46:18,079
yeah yeah yeah and laser turrets so

1060
00:46:21,750 --> 00:46:19,760
you're talking a minefield with mortars

1061
00:46:25,190 --> 00:46:21,760
and laser turrets you're right it was

1062
00:46:26,230 --> 00:46:25,200
a very uh surprising environment to find

1063
00:46:29,349 --> 00:46:26,240
myself in

1064
00:46:32,550 --> 00:46:29,359
now um my comments were

1065
00:46:34,950 --> 00:46:32,560
um and i want to address this head on

1066
00:46:35,750 --> 00:46:34,960
my comments last week as the news broke

1067
00:46:41,190 --> 00:46:35,760
um

1068
00:46:44,550 --> 00:46:41,200
looking into this for quite a while

1069
00:46:46,470 --> 00:46:44,560
and he he did tell me a couple of months

1070
00:46:50,309 --> 00:46:46,480
ago maybe about three months ago

1071
00:46:50,790 --> 00:46:50,319
about the first hints that he had gotten

1072
00:46:53,349 --> 00:46:50,800
back

1073
00:46:54,950 --> 00:46:53,359
that your emails no longer existed he

1074
00:46:56,069 --> 00:46:54,960
said you know jimmy i'm holding off i'm

1075
00:46:57,670 --> 00:46:56,079
holding off

1076
00:46:59,349 --> 00:46:57,680
i need confirmation well the

1077
00:47:02,550 --> 00:46:59,359
confirmation came in

1078
00:47:06,309 --> 00:47:02,560
and my comment was this lou nobody

1079
00:47:10,230 --> 00:47:06,319
wins here nobody wins there is an

1080
00:47:12,710 --> 00:47:10,240
approve or disprove on

1081
00:47:14,309 --> 00:47:12,720
the behalf of the department of defense

1082
00:47:17,510 --> 00:47:14,319
or lou elizondo

1083
00:47:20,309 --> 00:47:17,520
there's no way to move forward now

1084
00:47:23,030 --> 00:47:20,319
and that that is not a cool situation

1085
00:47:25,589 --> 00:47:23,040
and then you throw in the ig

1086
00:47:26,549 --> 00:47:25,599
and that investigation what the ig

1087
00:47:29,990 --> 00:47:26,559
doesn't even have

1088
00:47:30,870 --> 00:47:30,000
emails to go and and look at and i

1089
00:47:33,829 --> 00:47:30,880
cannot

1090
00:47:35,510 --> 00:47:33,839
i can't imagine how angry the ig would

1091
00:47:38,630 --> 00:47:35,520
be to find out that there's no

1092
00:47:40,549 --> 00:47:38,640
not only email but no backups of an

1093
00:47:42,309 --> 00:47:40,559
employee that just left three years ago

1094
00:47:44,549 --> 00:47:42,319
that doesn't make any sense

1095
00:47:45,670 --> 00:47:44,559
correct well the the sad truth of this

1096
00:47:48,790 --> 00:47:45,680
jimmy is that

1097
00:47:49,270 --> 00:47:48,800
uh that there is a reluctant winner in

1098
00:47:53,430 --> 00:47:49,280
this

1099
00:47:56,230 --> 00:47:53,440
the case but

1100
00:47:57,589 --> 00:47:56,240
but um you know at the end of the day

1101
00:47:58,710 --> 00:47:57,599
the proof is in the pudding as i've

1102
00:48:01,910 --> 00:47:58,720
always said

1103
00:48:03,910 --> 00:48:01,920
and uh emails do exist and uh

1104
00:48:06,230 --> 00:48:03,920
you know those emails uh will find

1105
00:48:08,950 --> 00:48:06,240
themselves to the inspector general and

1106
00:48:10,870 --> 00:48:08,960
ultimately this is at the end of the day

1107
00:48:13,510 --> 00:48:10,880
after giving three years of chances to

1108
00:48:14,470 --> 00:48:13,520
to the pentagon um they're gonna they're

1109
00:48:16,470 --> 00:48:14,480
gonna have some

1110
00:48:18,870 --> 00:48:16,480
real serious explaining to do and you

1111
00:48:20,549 --> 00:48:18,880
know i i tried like hell

1112
00:48:22,309 --> 00:48:20,559
for them not to be in this situation

1113
00:48:23,109 --> 00:48:22,319
i've offered olive branch after olive

1114
00:48:24,870 --> 00:48:23,119
branch

1115
00:48:26,790 --> 00:48:24,880
tell them guys you don't have to go down

1116
00:48:28,790 --> 00:48:26,800
this road you know it's wrong

1117
00:48:31,030 --> 00:48:28,800
and i even had a pao officer tell me

1118
00:48:32,630 --> 00:48:31,040
admit to me say lou i know this is wrong

1119
00:48:34,790 --> 00:48:32,640
i've seen the evidence

1120
00:48:36,390 --> 00:48:34,800
here but i'm being told by by some

1121
00:48:39,190 --> 00:48:36,400
people senior people here

1122
00:48:40,870 --> 00:48:39,200
not to toe the line and and say say the

1123
00:48:42,950 --> 00:48:40,880
say the party line here

1124
00:48:44,549 --> 00:48:42,960
and to me that that's that's so sad

1125
00:48:46,150 --> 00:48:44,559
because at that point it's no longer

1126
00:48:47,990 --> 00:48:46,160
dysfunctional

1127
00:48:49,670 --> 00:48:48,000
we've got a bigger problem on our hands

1128
00:48:51,510 --> 00:48:49,680
we have we have

1129
00:48:53,430 --> 00:48:51,520
frankly what i consider corruptness and

1130
00:48:56,069 --> 00:48:53,440
that's that's

1131
00:48:57,670 --> 00:48:56,079
that's a whole different level of issues

1132
00:48:59,190 --> 00:48:57,680
now we're dealing with because at least

1133
00:49:00,790 --> 00:48:59,200
with incompetence i can say look

1134
00:49:02,630 --> 00:49:00,800
dysfunction and competence

1135
00:49:04,870 --> 00:49:02,640
yeah they shouldn't have the job but you

1136
00:49:06,710 --> 00:49:04,880
know they didn't mean anything by it

1137
00:49:08,870 --> 00:49:06,720
but this is deliberate this is willful

1138
00:49:10,630 --> 00:49:08,880
there are certain rules and policies

1139
00:49:11,829 --> 00:49:10,640
that prevent those emails from being

1140
00:49:14,069 --> 00:49:11,839
destroyed

1141
00:49:15,510 --> 00:49:14,079
and and you know they were sloppy and

1142
00:49:16,950 --> 00:49:15,520
they did they destroyed them because

1143
00:49:19,109 --> 00:49:16,960
they did not want the truth to come out

1144
00:49:21,190 --> 00:49:19,119
they took the easy way out

1145
00:49:22,549 --> 00:49:21,200
not realizing at the end all they did

1146
00:49:23,589 --> 00:49:22,559
was paint themselves further into the

1147
00:49:25,510 --> 00:49:23,599
corner because

1148
00:49:27,270 --> 00:49:25,520
some emails do exist and and those

1149
00:49:29,109 --> 00:49:27,280
emails found their way to the ig

1150
00:49:30,470 --> 00:49:29,119
and so you got to scratch your head and

1151
00:49:34,069 --> 00:49:30,480
say you know what

1152
00:49:36,710 --> 00:49:34,079
what do you have to gain by doing this

1153
00:49:38,390 --> 00:49:36,720
oh look you you you can be a hero by

1154
00:49:39,750 --> 00:49:38,400
simply saying look yeah there's been 70

1155
00:49:40,870 --> 00:49:39,760
years of secrecy you know what we're in

1156
00:49:42,150 --> 00:49:40,880
the middle of the cold war

1157
00:49:43,430 --> 00:49:42,160
we didn't know what to do with it at the

1158
00:49:44,950 --> 00:49:43,440
time and so we focused on the real

1159
00:49:46,870 --> 00:49:44,960
threat which is russia at the time

1160
00:49:48,790 --> 00:49:46,880
we're now ready to to talk about this

1161
00:49:49,589 --> 00:49:48,800
topic more openly that's all you had to

1162
00:49:52,390 --> 00:49:49,599
say

1163
00:49:54,069 --> 00:49:52,400
that's it and instead they keep going

1164
00:49:55,670 --> 00:49:54,079
through the flip-flops yes it was about

1165
00:49:56,950 --> 00:49:55,680
at least about ufo preferred while agent

1166
00:49:59,030 --> 00:49:56,960
didn't exist then it was

1167
00:50:01,270 --> 00:49:59,040
uh it wasn't aerospace it was aviation

1168
00:50:02,870 --> 00:50:01,280
and then uh atip wasn't real then a tip

1169
00:50:04,390 --> 00:50:02,880
was real then ufos weren't real the

1170
00:50:05,190 --> 00:50:04,400
videos weren't real now the videos are

1171
00:50:07,829 --> 00:50:05,200
real and

1172
00:50:09,990 --> 00:50:07,839
it's it's this about three years and and

1173
00:50:11,349 --> 00:50:10,000
about 10 times the pentagon has changed

1174
00:50:13,349 --> 00:50:11,359
their stance on this

1175
00:50:15,270 --> 00:50:13,359
uh and of course my role in it and

1176
00:50:16,069 --> 00:50:15,280
finally it tooks a very very senior

1177
00:50:17,349 --> 00:50:16,079
person

1178
00:50:19,349 --> 00:50:17,359
to come out for the record and say all

1179
00:50:21,349 --> 00:50:19,359
right enough nonsense enough

1180
00:50:23,829 --> 00:50:21,359
bs here here's the fact it was my

1181
00:50:24,790 --> 00:50:23,839
program um you know i i didn't ask the

1182
00:50:26,470 --> 00:50:24,800
boss to do that

1183
00:50:28,069 --> 00:50:26,480
he did that because i think he saw me

1184
00:50:30,230 --> 00:50:28,079
taking all the arrows and

1185
00:50:31,750 --> 00:50:30,240
i i really really jimmy i really did try

1186
00:50:33,589 --> 00:50:31,760
to take the moral high road for for a

1187
00:50:35,190 --> 00:50:33,599
very long time at great expense personal

1188
00:50:37,270 --> 00:50:35,200
expense professional expense

1189
00:50:38,470 --> 00:50:37,280
but i thought the cause was worth it i

1190
00:50:40,470 --> 00:50:38,480
thought by by

1191
00:50:41,750 --> 00:50:40,480
by trying to play nice with the pentagon

1192
00:50:43,109 --> 00:50:41,760
the pentagon would eventually come

1193
00:50:44,309 --> 00:50:43,119
around and by the way to their credit

1194
00:50:46,470 --> 00:50:44,319
they did on a lot of things

1195
00:50:48,230 --> 00:50:46,480
they admitted that you the ufo videos

1196
00:50:50,710 --> 00:50:48,240
were real they admitted that they were

1197
00:50:52,390 --> 00:50:50,720
uaps they have now set up a uap task

1198
00:50:55,750 --> 00:50:52,400
force all the things that i had been

1199
00:50:56,549 --> 00:50:55,760
encouraging to happen they did um if the

1200
00:50:59,750 --> 00:50:56,559
cost of that

1201
00:51:00,470 --> 00:50:59,760
ultimately is a few you know sour grapes

1202
00:51:02,150 --> 00:51:00,480
uh

1203
00:51:03,670 --> 00:51:02,160
trying to sling arrows at me that's fine

1204
00:51:05,670 --> 00:51:03,680
but at this time let's let's just for

1205
00:51:09,270 --> 00:51:05,680
just a second jimmy just a second

1206
00:51:11,430 --> 00:51:09,280
let's rehash the last three months

1207
00:51:13,510 --> 00:51:11,440
we have a former president of the united

1208
00:51:14,870 --> 00:51:13,520
states for the first time in american

1209
00:51:16,950 --> 00:51:14,880
history come out and say that

1210
00:51:17,990 --> 00:51:16,960
these are ufps their inner skies we

1211
00:51:19,670 --> 00:51:18,000
don't know what they are

1212
00:51:21,109 --> 00:51:19,680
you have a former director of national

1213
00:51:22,870 --> 00:51:21,119
intelligence ratcliffe coming out for

1214
00:51:24,150 --> 00:51:22,880
the record saying the same things and

1215
00:51:25,349 --> 00:51:24,160
saying he tried to get some of this

1216
00:51:27,270 --> 00:51:25,359
stuff declassified

1217
00:51:29,270 --> 00:51:27,280
so we could have this open conversation

1218
00:51:31,270 --> 00:51:29,280
you have former director cia brennan

1219
00:51:32,390 --> 00:51:31,280
former director c.i.a woolsey all coming

1220
00:51:34,630 --> 00:51:32,400
out saying

1221
00:51:36,230 --> 00:51:34,640
yes i've been briefed on this this is

1222
00:51:37,750 --> 00:51:36,240
real okay by the way these people come

1223
00:51:39,109 --> 00:51:37,760
from different sides of the aisle so

1224
00:51:41,190 --> 00:51:39,119
it doesn't matter if you're conservative

1225
00:51:43,990 --> 00:51:41,200
or you're liberal or anything in between

1226
00:51:44,630 --> 00:51:44,000
um there's enough critical mass here

1227
00:51:47,829 --> 00:51:44,640
where

1228
00:51:49,109 --> 00:51:47,839
can't hide the truth and yet still

1229
00:51:50,230 --> 00:51:49,119
there's these small factions in the

1230
00:51:52,309 --> 00:51:50,240
pentagon

1231
00:51:53,430 --> 00:51:52,319
who knows what the hell they're thinking

1232
00:51:55,750 --> 00:51:53,440
but they're they're

1233
00:51:56,549 --> 00:51:55,760
they're still holding on to that ghost

1234
00:51:59,430 --> 00:51:56,559
they they

1235
00:52:01,670 --> 00:51:59,440
are so mad at me for breaking rank uh

1236
00:52:03,910 --> 00:52:01,680
that they are willing to sink the entire

1237
00:52:05,910 --> 00:52:03,920
reputation of the pentagon

1238
00:52:07,430 --> 00:52:05,920
just to try to get me back and and for

1239
00:52:08,790 --> 00:52:07,440
me that's

1240
00:52:10,390 --> 00:52:08,800
again the problem with that is they're

1241
00:52:11,829 --> 00:52:10,400
willing to do that to me thank god i've

1242
00:52:13,750 --> 00:52:11,839
got proof and evidence on my side but

1243
00:52:15,589 --> 00:52:13,760
what about everybody else who didn't

1244
00:52:17,190 --> 00:52:15,599
what about everybody else pilots maybe

1245
00:52:18,390 --> 00:52:17,200
who were taken off flight status because

1246
00:52:19,990 --> 00:52:18,400
they were deemed crazy

1247
00:52:21,510 --> 00:52:20,000
or mentally unstable or people who lost

1248
00:52:23,030 --> 00:52:21,520
their security clearance worse people

1249
00:52:26,150 --> 00:52:23,040
who lost their jobs became

1250
00:52:27,750 --> 00:52:26,160
became divorced and homeless now

1251
00:52:30,150 --> 00:52:27,760
what about those voices what about those

1252
00:52:33,589 --> 00:52:30,160
people that were railroaded down that

1253
00:52:34,870 --> 00:52:33,599
you know that that that uh that lane

1254
00:52:37,030 --> 00:52:34,880
with no recourse

1255
00:52:37,990 --> 00:52:37,040
and no one there to to to stand up for

1256
00:52:39,990 --> 00:52:38,000
them and say no

1257
00:52:41,829 --> 00:52:40,000
i saw it too you know i've interviewed

1258
00:52:43,270 --> 00:52:41,839
people military people

1259
00:52:44,790 --> 00:52:43,280
where i had to get on the phone because

1260
00:52:45,829 --> 00:52:44,800
i had an eyewitness 20 years ago and say

1261
00:52:47,270 --> 00:52:45,839
this is what happened and everybody

1262
00:52:49,349 --> 00:52:47,280
thought i was crazy so i shut up and

1263
00:52:51,190 --> 00:52:49,359
you know i never got promoted again come

1264
00:52:52,950 --> 00:52:51,200
to find out that there was a witness

1265
00:52:54,630 --> 00:52:52,960
that recanted the story because of that

1266
00:52:56,309 --> 00:52:54,640
type of pressure come back later 20

1267
00:52:59,109 --> 00:52:56,319
years and they're like you know what lou

1268
00:53:01,109 --> 00:52:59,119
it's true i i saw it too and it was

1269
00:53:02,790 --> 00:53:01,119
extraordinary and it was incredible but

1270
00:53:04,630 --> 00:53:02,800
but i couldn't say anything because the

1271
00:53:07,430 --> 00:53:04,640
system if you will

1272
00:53:08,790 --> 00:53:07,440
was was was was stacked up against us

1273
00:53:09,829 --> 00:53:08,800
and i knew that if i ever wanted to get

1274
00:53:11,030 --> 00:53:09,839
promoted again

1275
00:53:14,069 --> 00:53:11,040
i would not be able to have this

1276
00:53:16,870 --> 00:53:14,079
conversation openly i mean this this

1277
00:53:18,870 --> 00:53:16,880
is this goes against the very ethos of

1278
00:53:21,270 --> 00:53:18,880
why people like me people like alex

1279
00:53:23,109 --> 00:53:21,280
dietrich and dave fraver and ryan graves

1280
00:53:23,750 --> 00:53:23,119
and jim slayton all the other nameless

1281
00:53:24,950 --> 00:53:23,760
ones that

1282
00:53:26,870 --> 00:53:24,960
you don't know yet because they haven't

1283
00:53:28,470 --> 00:53:26,880
come out yet but they will right

1284
00:53:30,390 --> 00:53:28,480
this goes against the very ethos of

1285
00:53:31,829 --> 00:53:30,400
every one of us who took an oath

1286
00:53:33,349 --> 00:53:31,839
to always tell the truth and defend this

1287
00:53:35,030 --> 00:53:33,359
country from from all enemies foreign

1288
00:53:37,670 --> 00:53:35,040
and domestic

1289
00:53:39,829 --> 00:53:37,680
rights yeah let me jump in and make

1290
00:53:42,230 --> 00:53:39,839
another point here

1291
00:53:44,230 --> 00:53:42,240
um one of the comments uh from the

1292
00:53:45,109 --> 00:53:44,240
department of defense and the pentagon

1293
00:53:48,150 --> 00:53:45,119
and susan gow

1294
00:53:49,750 --> 00:53:48,160
um on your deleted emails was that they

1295
00:53:50,950 --> 00:53:49,760
they were deleted because they were i'm

1296
00:53:53,190 --> 00:53:50,960
doing air quotes

1297
00:53:54,630 --> 00:53:53,200
there wasn't any historical significance

1298
00:53:57,430 --> 00:53:54,640
to them

1299
00:53:58,549 --> 00:53:57,440
right there you call bs putting a tip

1300
00:54:01,510 --> 00:53:58,559
aside putting

1301
00:54:02,150 --> 00:54:01,520
uaps and ufos and little green men aside

1302
00:54:05,349 --> 00:54:02,160
let's put that

1303
00:54:09,030 --> 00:54:05,359
to the side that wasn't your only gig

1304
00:54:12,630 --> 00:54:09,040
you were doing things that um

1305
00:54:16,549 --> 00:54:12,640
have historical significance to it

1306
00:54:17,349 --> 00:54:16,559
um in other areas of of secrecy and

1307
00:54:19,750 --> 00:54:17,359
security

1308
00:54:21,190 --> 00:54:19,760
and counterintelligence where those

1309
00:54:24,549 --> 00:54:21,200
emails needed to be

1310
00:54:28,150 --> 00:54:24,559
preserved in their entirety right

1311
00:54:28,950 --> 00:54:28,160
and and by law can we address that point

1312
00:54:30,549 --> 00:54:28,960
for a second

1313
00:54:32,710 --> 00:54:30,559
let's talk about historical significance

1314
00:54:34,150 --> 00:54:32,720
for exa for for a second and i'm not

1315
00:54:36,390 --> 00:54:34,160
going to go into very specifics because

1316
00:54:36,710 --> 00:54:36,400
i said no you can't i i get that part

1317
00:54:41,030 --> 00:54:36,720
but

1318
00:54:42,470 --> 00:54:41,040
just ask you that jimmy was 911

1319
00:54:44,789 --> 00:54:42,480
significant a little bit

1320
00:54:48,069 --> 00:54:44,799
okay a little bit uh you know only three

1321
00:54:50,630 --> 00:54:48,079
thousand some odd americans died

1322
00:54:52,470 --> 00:54:50,640
for 20 years yes so do you think that

1323
00:54:53,670 --> 00:54:52,480
the people that were responsible for 9

1324
00:54:55,430 --> 00:54:53,680
11 the 9 11

1325
00:54:56,710 --> 00:54:55,440
5 khalid sheikh mohammed ramsey benoshy

1326
00:55:00,230 --> 00:54:56,720
benatash and all those

1327
00:55:01,750 --> 00:55:00,240
those characters uh do you think that

1328
00:55:03,910 --> 00:55:01,760
they're historically significant

1329
00:55:05,030 --> 00:55:03,920
especially as we approach the the 9 11

1330
00:55:06,789 --> 00:55:05,040
commission trials

1331
00:55:09,270 --> 00:55:06,799
we are we are doing a military

1332
00:55:11,030 --> 00:55:09,280
commission trials on the individuals

1333
00:55:12,309 --> 00:55:11,040
who are who have been allegedly

1334
00:55:15,589 --> 00:55:12,319
responsible

1335
00:55:18,470 --> 00:55:15,599
for 911. is that significant

1336
00:55:20,950 --> 00:55:18,480
it is it is so tremendous and so

1337
00:55:23,430 --> 00:55:20,960
historically important

1338
00:55:24,470 --> 00:55:23,440
for susan gao and the department of

1339
00:55:27,910 --> 00:55:24,480
defense to take

1340
00:55:30,789 --> 00:55:27,920
that kind of position is wrong

1341
00:55:31,510 --> 00:55:30,799
and it doesn't make any sense it it it

1342
00:55:33,990 --> 00:55:31,520
just doesn't

1343
00:55:35,349 --> 00:55:34,000
it does it it's even worse okay and

1344
00:55:36,950 --> 00:55:35,359
here's and i don't mean to cut you off

1345
00:55:38,630 --> 00:55:36,960
no go ahead go ahead i'm a little bit in

1346
00:55:39,829 --> 00:55:38,640
rare form because you you got me a

1347
00:55:43,510 --> 00:55:39,839
little bit uh

1348
00:55:44,789 --> 00:55:43,520
fired animated fired up look i i

1349
00:55:46,390 --> 00:55:44,799
i'm not gonna mention the person's name

1350
00:55:46,789 --> 00:55:46,400
but the person that you keep talking

1351
00:55:50,390 --> 00:55:46,799
about

1352
00:55:54,150 --> 00:55:50,400
in pao is a trained psychological

1353
00:55:57,589 --> 00:55:54,160
operations officer who wrote a report

1354
00:56:00,710 --> 00:55:57,599
for the record saying you cannot

1355
00:56:02,789 --> 00:56:00,720
you cannot separate public affairs

1356
00:56:03,990 --> 00:56:02,799
duties and that is communicating with

1357
00:56:07,349 --> 00:56:04,000
the public

1358
00:56:10,150 --> 00:56:07,359
from psychological operations i.e

1359
00:56:12,069 --> 00:56:10,160
there is always going to be some form of

1360
00:56:13,430 --> 00:56:12,079
deception

1361
00:56:15,510 --> 00:56:13,440
when you're communicating with the

1362
00:56:17,349 --> 00:56:15,520
american people that's what that means

1363
00:56:18,870 --> 00:56:17,359
now where i come from that's called

1364
00:56:20,230 --> 00:56:18,880
intelligence oversight there's about

1365
00:56:21,109 --> 00:56:20,240
three or four different laws that

1366
00:56:24,150 --> 00:56:21,119
prevent

1367
00:56:25,990 --> 00:56:24,160
the us government military apparatus

1368
00:56:27,349 --> 00:56:26,000
from conducting psychological operations

1369
00:56:31,430 --> 00:56:27,359
against the american people

1370
00:56:33,109 --> 00:56:31,440
okay that's if if that is the case

1371
00:56:35,109 --> 00:56:33,119
jimmy we got a much bigger problem on

1372
00:56:37,270 --> 00:56:35,119
our hands than ufos okay now now we've

1373
00:56:37,910 --> 00:56:37,280
got a constitutional crisis issue on our

1374
00:56:39,589 --> 00:56:37,920
hands

1375
00:56:41,190 --> 00:56:39,599
that i don't think people really

1376
00:56:44,230 --> 00:56:41,200
understand what's going on

1377
00:56:45,990 --> 00:56:44,240
ufos aside we

1378
00:56:47,670 --> 00:56:46,000
we're in deep [\h__\h] i mean this is this

1379
00:56:50,150 --> 00:56:47,680
is a problem man this is

1380
00:56:51,430 --> 00:56:50,160
this is why i said a couple days ago on

1381
00:56:52,870 --> 00:56:51,440
the media you know that's the kind of

1382
00:56:54,630 --> 00:56:52,880
crap that makes people like me

1383
00:56:56,710 --> 00:56:54,640
run for congress put my damn boots back

1384
00:56:58,230 --> 00:56:56,720
on and go in and say all right guys you

1385
00:56:59,829 --> 00:56:58,240
know enough's enough

1386
00:57:02,150 --> 00:56:59,839
because i know where those bodies are

1387
00:57:05,589 --> 00:57:02,160
buried proverbially speaking i know

1388
00:57:07,430 --> 00:57:05,599
the crap that that that really went on

1389
00:57:10,069 --> 00:57:07,440
not just with uaps but with other things

1390
00:57:11,829 --> 00:57:10,079
as well and they're being disingenuous

1391
00:57:14,470 --> 00:57:11,839
disingenuous with the american people

1392
00:57:16,789 --> 00:57:14,480
look we put them to do art bidding

1393
00:57:17,750 --> 00:57:16,799
not the other way around they serve us

1394
00:57:20,630 --> 00:57:17,760
they are public

1395
00:57:21,270 --> 00:57:20,640
servants we do not serve the government

1396
00:57:24,390 --> 00:57:21,280
and i

1397
00:57:25,510 --> 00:57:24,400
i i'm not sure some of those people in

1398
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the pentagon

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00:57:28,710 --> 00:57:27,440
realize that i think they've confused

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00:57:31,030 --> 00:57:28,720
some of their

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00:57:32,309 --> 00:57:31,040
their if you will privilege with

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00:57:34,069 --> 00:57:32,319
responsibility

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00:57:35,750 --> 00:57:34,079
because the higher you go up the more

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00:57:38,870 --> 00:57:35,760
responsibility you have

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00:57:40,630 --> 00:57:38,880
and and it's not a matter of privilege

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00:57:42,710 --> 00:57:40,640
and i think some people have forgotten

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00:57:43,990 --> 00:57:42,720
their their oath to this country

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00:57:46,309 --> 00:57:44,000
that are sitting into some of those

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00:57:47,829 --> 00:57:46,319
senior positions and let me remind

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00:57:49,910 --> 00:57:47,839
those people out there who may be

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00:57:50,950 --> 00:57:49,920
listening to your program who are one of

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00:57:54,710 --> 00:57:50,960
those people

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00:57:57,109 --> 00:57:54,720
um your time is coming this will not go

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00:57:58,950 --> 00:57:57,119
on forever there is going to come a

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00:58:01,030 --> 00:57:58,960
point where the american people

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00:58:02,870 --> 00:58:01,040
are not going to like very much anymore

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00:58:03,750 --> 00:58:02,880
what you're doing and those people will

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00:58:07,270 --> 00:58:03,760
be replaced

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00:58:08,309 --> 00:58:07,280
more representative of the will of the

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00:58:10,470 --> 00:58:08,319
people

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00:58:11,829 --> 00:58:10,480
this is why you have an ig investigation

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00:58:14,390 --> 00:58:11,839
going on right now

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00:58:15,349 --> 00:58:14,400
because there is enough crap that i

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00:58:17,430 --> 00:58:15,359
think the ig

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00:58:18,470 --> 00:58:17,440
now realizes hey we better get a handle

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00:58:20,309 --> 00:58:18,480
on this because

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00:58:21,670 --> 00:58:20,319
there's a whole lot of miscommunication

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00:58:22,390 --> 00:58:21,680
that's been going on over the last three

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00:58:24,069 --> 00:58:22,400
years

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00:58:25,510 --> 00:58:24,079
some of it is against our own policy and

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00:58:27,349 --> 00:58:25,520
regulations and rules

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00:58:28,870 --> 00:58:27,359
frankly some of it might even be illegal

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00:58:29,270 --> 00:58:28,880
so we probably got better figure this

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00:58:32,309 --> 00:58:29,280
out

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00:58:32,710 --> 00:58:32,319
i i had said something uh a few years

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00:58:36,549 --> 00:58:32,720
ago

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00:58:38,390 --> 00:58:36,559
about you and um and it's funny how it

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00:58:40,470 --> 00:58:38,400
came to pass

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00:58:41,670 --> 00:58:40,480
it's really funny and it was this lou i

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00:58:44,230 --> 00:58:41,680
said look

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00:58:45,510 --> 00:58:44,240
if uh if the department of defense of

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00:58:47,430 --> 00:58:45,520
the pentagon is going to take this

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00:58:50,870 --> 00:58:47,440
position with lou

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00:58:53,510 --> 00:58:50,880
i know my previous employers and the

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00:58:55,910 --> 00:58:53,520
stuff that i have collected

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00:58:56,789 --> 00:58:55,920
at home you know that's that's it i have

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00:59:00,230 --> 00:58:56,799
stuff that can

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00:59:01,430 --> 00:59:00,240
back up my bs uh i'm talking about jimmy

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00:59:03,670 --> 00:59:01,440
church right

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00:59:05,589 --> 00:59:03,680
lou's got to be in the same position and

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00:59:07,270 --> 00:59:05,599
if the department of defense is going to

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00:59:10,390 --> 00:59:07,280
take this position

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00:59:14,069 --> 00:59:10,400
he's probably got stacks of stuff

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00:59:14,870 --> 00:59:14,079
because it's life now i just made that

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00:59:16,870 --> 00:59:14,880
comment

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00:59:17,990 --> 00:59:16,880
you know three years ago i didn't

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00:59:20,390 --> 00:59:18,000
realize

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00:59:22,230 --> 00:59:20,400
the crystal ball that i was looking into

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00:59:24,870 --> 00:59:22,240
and that where we would find ourselves

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00:59:27,510 --> 00:59:24,880
in today with these deleted emails

1461
00:59:29,670 --> 00:59:27,520
it is absolutely nuts and it's it's

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00:59:33,349 --> 00:59:29,680
weird how the universe works lou

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00:59:35,510 --> 00:59:33,359
it's really strange yeah yeah well

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00:59:36,870 --> 00:59:35,520
uh you know i've never taken anything

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00:59:38,549 --> 00:59:36,880
that i shouldn't have i do not have

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00:59:40,630 --> 00:59:38,559
classified information i don't condone

1467
00:59:42,870 --> 00:59:40,640
leaking i've made that very clear

1468
00:59:44,789 --> 00:59:42,880
but there is there is documentation that

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00:59:45,430 --> 00:59:44,799
exists in certain pockets in the us

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00:59:47,190 --> 00:59:45,440
government

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00:59:48,549 --> 00:59:47,200
yeah they may have deleted my emails but

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00:59:51,589 --> 00:59:48,559
they didn't lead everybody's emails

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00:59:53,829 --> 00:59:51,599
that's what i mean yeah so so there

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00:59:54,630 --> 00:59:53,839
are trails there and and and the ig is

1475
00:59:56,950 --> 00:59:54,640
wise to it

1476
00:59:58,870 --> 00:59:56,960
they're they're not stupid and and they

1477
01:00:00,630 --> 00:59:58,880
are very good investigators

1478
01:00:01,990 --> 01:00:00,640
so you know hopefully with a little due

1479
01:00:03,510 --> 01:00:02,000
diligence here

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01:00:05,030 --> 01:00:03,520
they know exactly where to look they

1481
01:00:06,630 --> 01:00:05,040
know exactly who to talk to they know

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01:00:08,549 --> 01:00:06,640
exactly when the meetings occurred

1483
01:00:10,150 --> 01:00:08,559
i have some very very senior people in

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01:00:11,190 --> 01:00:10,160
very high places i won't say their

1485
01:00:13,430 --> 01:00:11,200
positions

1486
01:00:14,230 --> 01:00:13,440
who who stated for the record to the pao

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01:00:16,069 --> 01:00:14,240
office

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01:00:17,990 --> 01:00:16,079
you are misleading the american people i

1489
01:00:19,270 --> 01:00:18,000
was in those meetings when lou elizondo

1490
01:00:22,230 --> 01:00:19,280
was giving those briefings

1491
01:00:22,789 --> 01:00:22,240
and now you're saying that didn't occur

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01:00:25,910 --> 01:00:22,799
i was

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01:00:29,270 --> 01:00:25,920
there along with the pilot and

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01:00:31,109 --> 01:00:29,280
the response is um yes sir we know that

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01:00:33,190 --> 01:00:31,119
we're trying to fix this but we're

1496
01:00:34,549 --> 01:00:33,200
having some some difficulties with

1497
01:00:36,390 --> 01:00:34,559
with the verbiage and the language there

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01:00:37,670 --> 01:00:36,400
are some people here that uh you know

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01:00:40,789 --> 01:00:37,680
don't don't want that

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01:00:44,549 --> 01:00:40,799
to be communicated can you imagine that

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01:00:45,990 --> 01:00:44,559
i mean what yeah let's take our break

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01:00:46,710 --> 01:00:46,000
right here lewis take our break let's

1503
01:00:48,789 --> 01:00:46,720
get it in

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01:00:49,990 --> 01:00:48,799
this is fade to black i am your host

1505
01:00:52,549 --> 01:00:50,000
jimmy church

1506
01:00:54,150 --> 01:00:52,559
we've got a lot to talk about tonight

1507
01:00:57,349 --> 01:00:54,160
with lou elizondo

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01:00:59,270 --> 01:00:57,359
the drama is going down we're gonna

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01:01:01,030 --> 01:00:59,280
figure this out i'm your host

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01:01:03,270 --> 01:01:01,040
jimmy church this is fade to black and

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01:01:05,190 --> 01:01:03,280
the game changer network and kg r

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01:01:10,640 --> 01:01:05,200
a the planet more with loot when we come

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01:01:19,490 --> 01:01:10,650
back after this short break stay with us

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01:01:20,140 --> 01:01:19,500
[Music]

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01:01:28,150 --> 01:01:20,150
[Applause]

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this is fade to black with jimmy church

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good is jimmy church fade to black

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01:05:02,710 --> 01:04:59,200
on the game changer network and the kgra

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this is toby kebbel you're listening to

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01:05:10,069 --> 01:05:07,039
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01:05:11,190 --> 01:05:10,079
don't hurt me jimmy i'm only little hey

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01:05:17,510 --> 01:05:13,039
and this is ari gold we're the honey

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we're the honey brothers

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and you're listening to jimmy church a

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01:05:39,109 --> 01:05:37,680
hello this is serena wright taylor from

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01:05:41,029 --> 01:05:39,119
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01:05:42,150 --> 01:05:41,039
and you're listening to fade to black

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01:05:44,390 --> 01:05:42,160
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01:05:47,910 --> 01:05:44,400
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01:05:56,069 --> 01:05:54,000
and you're listening to jimmy church on

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[Music]

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01:06:16,839 --> 01:06:20,950
so

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01:06:24,789 --> 01:06:23,349
all right welcome back fade to black i

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01:06:27,270 --> 01:06:24,799
am your host jimmy church tonight lou

1630
01:06:28,230 --> 01:06:27,280
elizondo is with us tomorrow night ralph

1631
01:06:31,670 --> 01:06:28,240
blumenthal

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01:06:36,069 --> 01:06:31,680
wow it's a heck of a week somebody pinch

1633
01:06:39,349 --> 01:06:38,549
wow i love doing this show i love doing

1634
01:06:42,230 --> 01:06:39,359
the show lou

1635
01:06:43,910 --> 01:06:42,240
and uh i want to stay on point for a

1636
01:06:46,230 --> 01:06:43,920
second before we move into

1637
01:06:47,430 --> 01:06:46,240
uh some other areas but back to the

1638
01:06:50,630 --> 01:06:47,440
emails

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01:06:53,829 --> 01:06:50,640
one of the things that i i think i can

1640
01:06:54,710 --> 01:06:53,839
state is fact that if the department of

1641
01:06:58,390 --> 01:06:54,720
defense

1642
01:07:01,430 --> 01:06:58,400
or some other uh uh attorney

1643
01:07:04,309 --> 01:07:01,440
on behalf of the department of defense

1644
01:07:05,190 --> 01:07:04,319
needed something in those emails for

1645
01:07:08,390 --> 01:07:05,200
something else

1646
01:07:08,950 --> 01:07:08,400
they would find it right of course and

1647
01:07:11,029 --> 01:07:08,960
look

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01:07:12,630 --> 01:07:11,039
i didn't go into the full detail about

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01:07:14,710 --> 01:07:12,640
you know the the

1650
01:07:15,750 --> 01:07:14,720
other work i did but but by law that

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01:07:17,589 --> 01:07:15,760
information is

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01:07:19,589 --> 01:07:17,599
is considered discoverable in a court of

1653
01:07:21,349 --> 01:07:19,599
law it's considered evidence

1654
01:07:23,109 --> 01:07:21,359
and and if you mess with it you either

1655
01:07:25,190 --> 01:07:23,119
destroy or tamper with it

1656
01:07:26,309 --> 01:07:25,200
that's a problem that's a crime and you

1657
01:07:29,789 --> 01:07:26,319
know for the for the

1658
01:07:32,309 --> 01:07:29,799
dod to be running an actual

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01:07:33,109 --> 01:07:32,319
investigation and a trial against the

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01:07:37,430 --> 01:07:33,119
911

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01:07:40,390 --> 01:07:37,440
5 and willfully destroy

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01:07:40,950 --> 01:07:40,400
evidence well i mean at that point you

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01:07:44,150 --> 01:07:40,960
you might

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01:07:45,910 --> 01:07:44,160
out right because this is this is the

1665
01:07:48,390 --> 01:07:45,920
kind of crap that that happens

1666
01:07:49,829 --> 01:07:48,400
uh to to to declare a mistrial this is

1667
01:07:52,549 --> 01:07:49,839
this is unbelievable

1668
01:07:53,029 --> 01:07:52,559
i i can't i can't believe that that

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01:07:55,510 --> 01:07:53,039
we're

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01:07:57,750 --> 01:07:55,520
even having this conversation because i

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01:07:59,910 --> 01:07:57,760
i can't imagine someone in order to

1672
01:08:02,710 --> 01:07:59,920
protect their own political but

1673
01:08:03,670 --> 01:08:02,720
would be willing to jeopardize an entire

1674
01:08:06,870 --> 01:08:03,680
case

1675
01:08:07,589 --> 01:08:06,880
regarding the 911 five just because they

1676
01:08:11,029 --> 01:08:07,599
don't like lou

1677
01:08:13,109 --> 01:08:11,039
elizondo that's that is absurd that is i

1678
01:08:14,309 --> 01:08:13,119
mean that's not that's not even a bad

1679
01:08:17,349 --> 01:08:14,319
movie that's

1680
01:08:19,189 --> 01:08:17,359
uh that's something that i think um

1681
01:08:20,470 --> 01:08:19,199
certainly had you have asked me a year

1682
01:08:23,269 --> 01:08:20,480
ago i never

1683
01:08:24,390 --> 01:08:23,279
ever ever thought i mean i i expected

1684
01:08:26,630 --> 01:08:24,400
them to to

1685
01:08:28,870 --> 01:08:26,640
to stoop to low you know things and try

1686
01:08:31,110 --> 01:08:28,880
to to play dirty

1687
01:08:34,149 --> 01:08:31,120
but this doesn't even make sense no it

1688
01:08:36,870 --> 01:08:34,159
doesn't it doesn't i was i was shocked

1689
01:08:38,390 --> 01:08:36,880
i was shocked i was appalled but i but

1690
01:08:40,630 --> 01:08:38,400
this is the other thing

1691
01:08:42,550 --> 01:08:40,640
those are just words i know that it's

1692
01:08:44,789 --> 01:08:42,560
not true

1693
01:08:46,070 --> 01:08:44,799
there's just that's the thing i i just

1694
01:08:49,430 --> 01:08:46,080
know that it's not true there's

1695
01:08:51,030 --> 01:08:49,440
no way that your emails or anybody else

1696
01:08:52,870 --> 01:08:51,040
is in the department of defense is

1697
01:08:55,910 --> 01:08:52,880
simply destroyed

1698
01:08:58,789 --> 01:08:55,920
without a backup and and so i consider

1699
01:09:00,149 --> 01:08:58,799
those just words but it's the position

1700
01:09:03,189 --> 01:09:00,159
to try to take on this

1701
01:09:05,910 --> 01:09:03,199
it is it's it's completely shocking

1702
01:09:07,110 --> 01:09:05,920
i i i don't know how else to look at it

1703
01:09:09,990 --> 01:09:07,120
like i said

1704
01:09:11,910 --> 01:09:10,000
oh i want to uh uh clarify my statement

1705
01:09:15,030 --> 01:09:11,920
earlier when i said

1706
01:09:15,510 --> 01:09:15,040
uh that uh we all take stuff home what i

1707
01:09:18,229 --> 01:09:15,520
meant

1708
01:09:19,110 --> 01:09:18,239
uh by that and when i said this a few

1709
01:09:21,749 --> 01:09:19,120
years ago

1710
01:09:23,189 --> 01:09:21,759
that there is a paper trail around this

1711
01:09:26,229 --> 01:09:23,199
all over the place

1712
01:09:27,669 --> 01:09:26,239
there are lunches there are things there

1713
01:09:30,789 --> 01:09:27,679
are meetings

1714
01:09:33,269 --> 01:09:30,799
that you know that exist all of this

1715
01:09:34,309 --> 01:09:33,279
exists with everybody else that was in

1716
01:09:37,269 --> 01:09:34,319
this circle

1717
01:09:37,749 --> 01:09:37,279
it doesn't just rest on lou and and

1718
01:09:41,349 --> 01:09:37,759
that's

1719
01:09:44,550 --> 01:09:41,359
that the um the the digital paper trail

1720
01:09:46,309 --> 01:09:44,560
is there it just has to exist well it

1721
01:09:48,229 --> 01:09:46,319
does and there's a whole lot of people

1722
01:09:50,070 --> 01:09:48,239
that you have to wipe their emails

1723
01:09:51,749 --> 01:09:50,080
if you wanted to make this go away and

1724
01:09:53,189 --> 01:09:51,759
and they can't because

1725
01:09:55,030 --> 01:09:53,199
half them they don't know who they are

1726
01:09:57,990 --> 01:09:55,040
they remain in the shadows thank god

1727
01:09:58,310 --> 01:09:58,000
so those emails are absolutely there

1728
01:10:01,990 --> 01:09:58,320
they

1729
01:10:05,110 --> 01:10:02,000
there are some

1730
01:10:07,430 --> 01:10:05,120
individuals in in in in

1731
01:10:08,950 --> 01:10:07,440
good authoritative positions that have

1732
01:10:10,870 --> 01:10:08,960
access to at least some of those and at

1733
01:10:12,950 --> 01:10:10,880
least know where to look

1734
01:10:13,910 --> 01:10:12,960
now uh let's uh let's shift gears i'm

1735
01:10:17,030 --> 01:10:13,920
gonna go uh to

1736
01:10:19,910 --> 01:10:17,040
uh the uap uh task force

1737
01:10:21,510 --> 01:10:19,920
report um i want your comments on a

1738
01:10:24,070 --> 01:10:21,520
couple of things i'm gonna i'm gonna go

1739
01:10:25,669 --> 01:10:24,080
straight at you some of the um uh

1740
01:10:28,149 --> 01:10:25,679
straight not straight at you

1741
01:10:28,950 --> 01:10:28,159
but straight at the questions which is

1742
01:10:31,110 --> 01:10:28,960
this

1743
01:10:33,189 --> 01:10:31,120
um some of the stuff that has been

1744
01:10:35,910 --> 01:10:33,199
leaked uh these videos

1745
01:10:36,870 --> 01:10:35,920
uh the the flying pyramid flying toaster

1746
01:10:38,950 --> 01:10:36,880
video

1747
01:10:40,070 --> 01:10:38,960
and some of these other images um and

1748
01:10:43,270 --> 01:10:40,080
stuff that has come out

1749
01:10:46,709 --> 01:10:43,280
and um those are being

1750
01:10:49,669 --> 01:10:46,719
leaked somebody is feeding this

1751
01:10:53,030 --> 01:10:49,679
information coming out to the public

1752
01:10:57,110 --> 01:10:53,040
but i don't believe that

1753
01:11:00,550 --> 01:10:57,120
it represents anything e.t

1754
01:11:01,430 --> 01:11:00,560
right and in what i have seen i'm not

1755
01:11:03,590 --> 01:11:01,440
convinced

1756
01:11:04,950 --> 01:11:03,600
now it may be uaps it could be drones it

1757
01:11:07,990 --> 01:11:04,960
could be this it could be that

1758
01:11:11,030 --> 01:11:08,000
but i don't think it is that is that

1759
01:11:11,350 --> 01:11:11,040
the strongest evidence that is going to

1760
01:11:15,990 --> 01:11:11,360
be

1761
01:11:17,669 --> 01:11:16,000
it is i don't think it's strong enough

1762
01:11:19,590 --> 01:11:17,679
yeah so that's you're asking actually

1763
01:11:21,510 --> 01:11:19,600
two two questions first of all

1764
01:11:22,630 --> 01:11:21,520
is that the best evidence we have the

1765
01:11:24,790 --> 01:11:22,640
answer is an absolute

1766
01:11:26,229 --> 01:11:24,800
hell no okay i i've seen stuff that's

1767
01:11:28,390 --> 01:11:26,239
far far more compelling

1768
01:11:30,070 --> 01:11:28,400
so of my colleagues unfortunately that

1769
01:11:31,669 --> 01:11:30,080
stuff still remains classified so i

1770
01:11:32,870 --> 01:11:31,679
really am not in a position to elaborate

1771
01:11:34,470 --> 01:11:32,880
or discuss it

1772
01:11:36,149 --> 01:11:34,480
until at some point maybe the government

1773
01:11:36,790 --> 01:11:36,159
decides to release it now the question

1774
01:11:40,310 --> 01:11:36,800
is

1775
01:11:42,550 --> 01:11:40,320
going to be in in the report

1776
01:11:43,830 --> 01:11:42,560
here's my concern jimmy let's let's

1777
01:11:47,030 --> 01:11:43,840
let's apply

1778
01:11:47,990 --> 01:11:47,040
common sense to this okay um we're

1779
01:11:51,590 --> 01:11:48,000
looking at

1780
01:11:55,590 --> 01:11:51,600
decades worth of information um congress

1781
01:11:58,149 --> 01:11:55,600
if you will and they had 180 days

1782
01:11:59,110 --> 01:11:58,159
to to deliver it now in that time you

1783
01:12:01,189 --> 01:11:59,120
have to

1784
01:12:02,630 --> 01:12:01,199
have access to the data all 18

1785
01:12:04,070 --> 01:12:02,640
intelligence organizations

1786
01:12:05,350 --> 01:12:04,080
which by the way usually takes about a

1787
01:12:06,390 --> 01:12:05,360
year if you want to get the proper

1788
01:12:09,430 --> 01:12:06,400
accesses

1789
01:12:11,590 --> 01:12:09,440
ask me how i know and then you have to

1790
01:12:12,870 --> 01:12:11,600
collect the data then you have to

1791
01:12:14,950 --> 01:12:12,880
analyze the data

1792
01:12:17,510 --> 01:12:14,960
you have to process the data and then

1793
01:12:19,510 --> 01:12:17,520
you have to synthesize the data

1794
01:12:20,790 --> 01:12:19,520
into a document and finally you have to

1795
01:12:22,229 --> 01:12:20,800
produce the data

1796
01:12:23,910 --> 01:12:22,239
at that point it gets reviewed

1797
01:12:26,070 --> 01:12:23,920
re-reviewed redrafted rewritten

1798
01:12:27,750 --> 01:12:26,080
about a dozen times and then from there

1799
01:12:28,870 --> 01:12:27,760
once it gets to legal review it finally

1800
01:12:31,189 --> 01:12:28,880
gets kicked over

1801
01:12:32,229 --> 01:12:31,199
uh to the dni and that process is going

1802
01:12:33,910 --> 01:12:32,239
to start all over again they're going to

1803
01:12:35,350 --> 01:12:33,920
do their reviews and their checks and

1804
01:12:36,229 --> 01:12:35,360
their edits and the fact checking and

1805
01:12:38,630 --> 01:12:36,239
blah blah

1806
01:12:40,070 --> 01:12:38,640
and finally that gets to to release to

1807
01:12:41,990 --> 01:12:40,080
to congress and by the way

1808
01:12:43,669 --> 01:12:42,000
all that at the unclassified level not

1809
01:12:45,669 --> 01:12:43,679
to mention we just spent

1810
01:12:47,750 --> 01:12:45,679
the last two years under these coveted

1811
01:12:48,870 --> 01:12:47,760
restrictions where the majority of the

1812
01:12:50,310 --> 01:12:48,880
department and the intelligence

1813
01:12:52,950 --> 01:12:50,320
community weren't even at work

1814
01:12:55,270 --> 01:12:52,960
a lot of them were at home so so they're

1815
01:12:57,669 --> 01:12:55,280
just now coming back to office with a 50

1816
01:12:59,590 --> 01:12:57,679
manning so my question to you is how how

1817
01:13:00,790 --> 01:12:59,600
is that possible how are you going to

1818
01:13:03,110 --> 01:13:00,800
possibly

1819
01:13:04,070 --> 01:13:03,120
create a report that congress not only

1820
01:13:07,270 --> 01:13:04,080
ask for but

1821
01:13:09,030 --> 01:13:07,280
expects and deserves and and and tell

1822
01:13:11,830 --> 01:13:09,040
the american people you've done your

1823
01:13:13,430 --> 01:13:11,840
due diligence that it's it's i i don't

1824
01:13:14,229 --> 01:13:13,440
see how you can do that with a straight

1825
01:13:17,270 --> 01:13:14,239
face

1826
01:13:18,870 --> 01:13:17,280
um my my my i i think what's going to

1827
01:13:20,470 --> 01:13:18,880
happen is that this report will probably

1828
01:13:22,310 --> 01:13:20,480
be preliminary nature

1829
01:13:23,750 --> 01:13:22,320
i suspect it's not going to say very

1830
01:13:25,910 --> 01:13:23,760
much um

1831
01:13:27,030 --> 01:13:25,920
other than uh the obvious yeah there's

1832
01:13:29,189 --> 01:13:27,040
something in our sky we don't know what

1833
01:13:30,950 --> 01:13:29,199
it is some of it is drones some of it is

1834
01:13:32,790 --> 01:13:30,960
is misidentified aircraft and there's

1835
01:13:34,630 --> 01:13:32,800
other stuff that we really don't know

1836
01:13:36,390 --> 01:13:34,640
and we need more time to figure it out

1837
01:13:37,910 --> 01:13:36,400
and then hopefully at that point a real

1838
01:13:39,350 --> 01:13:37,920
comprehensive report

1839
01:13:40,630 --> 01:13:39,360
will begin to be developed and it will

1840
01:13:41,830 --> 01:13:40,640
be a whole of government approach it's

1841
01:13:44,630 --> 01:13:41,840
not just going to be

1842
01:13:45,750 --> 01:13:44,640
dod task force or let's say the

1843
01:13:47,270 --> 01:13:45,760
intelligence community

1844
01:13:49,110 --> 01:13:47,280
it's going to be department of energy

1845
01:13:51,270 --> 01:13:49,120
it's going to be faa it's going to be no

1846
01:13:52,709 --> 01:13:51,280
it's going to be academia and scientists

1847
01:13:54,870 --> 01:13:52,719
what i've proposed is that we need to

1848
01:13:56,709 --> 01:13:54,880
create a mini manhattan project but in

1849
01:13:57,990 --> 01:13:56,719
this case for peaceful purposes

1850
01:13:59,750 --> 01:13:58,000
and bring our best and brightest

1851
01:14:01,750 --> 01:13:59,760
bringing some of our our foreign allies

1852
01:14:03,830 --> 01:14:01,760
and friends into the to the calculus

1853
01:14:05,430 --> 01:14:03,840
let's bring them all under the tent and

1854
01:14:07,030 --> 01:14:05,440
try to collectively figure out what this

1855
01:14:09,510 --> 01:14:07,040
is i would bet you anything

1856
01:14:10,870 --> 01:14:09,520
that there's parts of this this enigma

1857
01:14:13,350 --> 01:14:10,880
that frankly don't fall under the

1858
01:14:13,990 --> 01:14:13,360
purview of national security that do not

1859
01:14:15,750 --> 01:14:14,000
fall under

1860
01:14:18,390 --> 01:14:15,760
the dod or intelligence community

1861
01:14:20,310 --> 01:14:18,400
purview from my perspective i think

1862
01:14:22,070 --> 01:14:20,320
the only purview they have is from a

1863
01:14:23,430 --> 01:14:22,080
national security perspective protecting

1864
01:14:24,870 --> 01:14:23,440
our borders protecting our natural

1865
01:14:27,750 --> 01:14:24,880
national sovereignty

1866
01:14:28,070 --> 01:14:27,760
is this is this a national security

1867
01:14:30,070 --> 01:14:28,080
issue

1868
01:14:31,590 --> 01:14:30,080
is it a national security threat once

1869
01:14:33,830 --> 01:14:31,600
that answer

1870
01:14:35,270 --> 01:14:33,840
is provided then i think there's a whole

1871
01:14:36,630 --> 01:14:35,280
lot of other things that we need to ask

1872
01:14:38,149 --> 01:14:36,640
ourselves and i don't think it's a

1873
01:14:39,189 --> 01:14:38,159
purview of the government frankly i

1874
01:14:41,990 --> 01:14:39,199
don't want

1875
01:14:43,270 --> 01:14:42,000
the government thinking on my behalf i

1876
01:14:44,870 --> 01:14:43,280
don't want them involved in

1877
01:14:46,149 --> 01:14:44,880
anything more than they absolutely need

1878
01:14:47,669 --> 01:14:46,159
to be involved with i think this

1879
01:14:48,390 --> 01:14:47,679
conversation belongs to all of us to

1880
01:14:50,390 --> 01:14:48,400
have

1881
01:14:52,390 --> 01:14:50,400
uh because the government frankly hasn't

1882
01:14:53,270 --> 01:14:52,400
been very forthcoming over the last few

1883
01:14:55,110 --> 01:14:53,280
decades

1884
01:14:56,470 --> 01:14:55,120
so again i'm not trying to villainize a

1885
01:14:57,590 --> 01:14:56,480
government here obviously i'm a little

1886
01:15:00,070 --> 01:14:57,600
bit animated here

1887
01:15:01,110 --> 01:15:00,080
because of of what i've i've been

1888
01:15:03,669 --> 01:15:01,120
exposed to

1889
01:15:04,790 --> 01:15:03,679
um but i i think that there's probably

1890
01:15:06,070 --> 01:15:04,800
pockets in the government that would

1891
01:15:07,669 --> 01:15:06,080
agree with that that

1892
01:15:09,750 --> 01:15:07,679
you know unless it's a national security

1893
01:15:11,510 --> 01:15:09,760
issue this conversation probably needs

1894
01:15:13,430 --> 01:15:11,520
to be a lot bigger than it really is and

1895
01:15:14,790 --> 01:15:13,440
instead of having just a task force

1896
01:15:17,669 --> 01:15:14,800
which in government speak means a

1897
01:15:19,669 --> 01:15:17,679
temporary activity to do a temporary job

1898
01:15:21,510 --> 01:15:19,679
to find a temporary solution

1899
01:15:23,350 --> 01:15:21,520
we need an enduring capability we need a

1900
01:15:26,229 --> 01:15:23,360
long-term capability we need

1901
01:15:27,910 --> 01:15:26,239
we need a a center of academic or

1902
01:15:30,790 --> 01:15:27,920
scientific excellence

1903
01:15:31,669 --> 01:15:30,800
that will look at this uh issue uh

1904
01:15:33,750 --> 01:15:31,679
holistically

1905
01:15:35,430 --> 01:15:33,760
and i mean it from a human psychology

1906
01:15:36,870 --> 01:15:35,440
perspective from a theological

1907
01:15:37,990 --> 01:15:36,880
perspective from a sociological

1908
01:15:40,709 --> 01:15:38,000
perspective from a political

1909
01:15:41,430 --> 01:15:40,719
perspective you name it i i think that's

1910
01:15:43,830 --> 01:15:41,440
what's needed

1911
01:15:45,110 --> 01:15:43,840
um this is perhaps one of the greatest

1912
01:15:47,350 --> 01:15:45,120
last frontiers

1913
01:15:48,709 --> 01:15:47,360
that mankind has faced we are on that

1914
01:15:50,550 --> 01:15:48,719
precipice now

1915
01:15:51,990 --> 01:15:50,560
and this is a paradigm moment for our

1916
01:15:54,870 --> 01:15:52,000
species and either we can screw

1917
01:15:57,030 --> 01:15:54,880
it up or we can learn from from from

1918
01:15:58,950 --> 01:15:57,040
lessons learned in our past mistakes

1919
01:16:00,790 --> 01:15:58,960
and try to do this the right way that's

1920
01:16:04,229 --> 01:16:00,800
that's just lou elizondo speaking

1921
01:16:07,910 --> 01:16:04,239
so um do you have an inside

1922
01:16:11,430 --> 01:16:07,920
track on uh this

1923
01:16:13,270 --> 01:16:11,440
june 24th release is there something

1924
01:16:15,590 --> 01:16:13,280
that is going to be presented on june

1925
01:16:18,870 --> 01:16:15,600
24th is there going to be hearing

1926
01:16:22,229 --> 01:16:18,880
is or is it simply going to be

1927
01:16:24,630 --> 01:16:22,239
uh the dni the od and i asking

1928
01:16:25,510 --> 01:16:24,640
for uh an extension of time to get this

1929
01:16:28,149 --> 01:16:25,520
together

1930
01:16:30,310 --> 01:16:28,159
i think and let me let me let me let me

1931
01:16:33,189 --> 01:16:30,320
state this for the record i do not know

1932
01:16:34,709 --> 01:16:33,199
i i am speculating that there will be

1933
01:16:36,310 --> 01:16:34,719
some sort of report some sort of

1934
01:16:37,590 --> 01:16:36,320
product provided to congress now at that

1935
01:16:39,430 --> 01:16:37,600
point it's going to be up to congress to

1936
01:16:41,750 --> 01:16:39,440
make the determination

1937
01:16:43,430 --> 01:16:41,760
if it scratches the rich i i suspect

1938
01:16:46,229 --> 01:16:43,440
it's it's not going to

1939
01:16:47,750 --> 01:16:46,239
um i i i have faith and confidence in

1940
01:16:49,750 --> 01:16:47,760
our elected leadership on both sides

1941
01:16:51,189 --> 01:16:49,760
whether you're republican or democrat

1942
01:16:53,110 --> 01:16:51,199
i know that the individuals who are

1943
01:16:55,270 --> 01:16:53,120
engaged in this topic

1944
01:16:57,270 --> 01:16:55,280
are very much interested into this topic

1945
01:16:57,910 --> 01:16:57,280
folks like senator marco rubio senator

1946
01:17:00,630 --> 01:16:57,920
warner

1947
01:17:02,390 --> 01:17:00,640
of course my my old old boss and

1948
01:17:04,070 --> 01:17:02,400
directly with senator harry reid

1949
01:17:05,750 --> 01:17:04,080
you know there's there's a lot of people

1950
01:17:07,030 --> 01:17:05,760
looking at this uh and there's a lot of

1951
01:17:08,790 --> 01:17:07,040
people in the executive branch that are

1952
01:17:10,229 --> 01:17:08,800
that are also interested in this so

1953
01:17:11,830 --> 01:17:10,239
it's going to be a lot harder for

1954
01:17:13,110 --> 01:17:11,840
anybody to try to put the cat back in

1955
01:17:15,189 --> 01:17:13,120
the bag if they do we're definitely

1956
01:17:18,229 --> 01:17:15,199
going to have a tail and an ear and

1957
01:17:19,430 --> 01:17:18,239
a paw sticking out so it's i don't think

1958
01:17:22,630 --> 01:17:19,440
we'll ever be able to go

1959
01:17:25,830 --> 01:17:22,640
to go back uh to that total secrecy

1960
01:17:26,390 --> 01:17:25,840
my hope is by getting everything on the

1961
01:17:29,350 --> 01:17:26,400
record

1962
01:17:30,070 --> 01:17:29,360
now to this point on we create a

1963
01:17:31,350 --> 01:17:30,080
backstop

1964
01:17:32,870 --> 01:17:31,360
and what we do is we create a new

1965
01:17:34,070 --> 01:17:32,880
narrative moving from this day forward

1966
01:17:36,550 --> 01:17:34,080
okay so here's

1967
01:17:37,510 --> 01:17:36,560
here's what we know up to today now

1968
01:17:39,270 --> 01:17:37,520
let's take that

1969
01:17:40,950 --> 01:17:39,280
let's not repeat the history and the

1970
01:17:42,790 --> 01:17:40,960
mistakes let's start there

1971
01:17:44,950 --> 01:17:42,800
and let's continue to move forward this

1972
01:17:45,590 --> 01:17:44,960
is our baseline understanding of what it

1973
01:17:47,110 --> 01:17:45,600
is

1974
01:17:48,790 --> 01:17:47,120
now let's move forward and start to fill

1975
01:17:49,430 --> 01:17:48,800
in the blanks that's that's what i would

1976
01:17:51,830 --> 01:17:49,440
do

1977
01:17:52,630 --> 01:17:51,840
now what about the second part of my

1978
01:17:55,910 --> 01:17:52,640
question

1979
01:17:58,870 --> 01:17:55,920
um which is the leaks

1980
01:18:01,030 --> 01:17:58,880
who was doing the leaking and wouldn't

1981
01:18:02,950 --> 01:18:01,040
that be a concern for od and i

1982
01:18:04,790 --> 01:18:02,960
and maybe even congress and in the

1983
01:18:05,830 --> 01:18:04,800
senate it should be and i'm going to say

1984
01:18:06,950 --> 01:18:05,840
something here that's probably going to

1985
01:18:08,550 --> 01:18:06,960
be very unpopular

1986
01:18:10,229 --> 01:18:08,560
and a lot of your audience is going to

1987
01:18:12,630 --> 01:18:10,239
disagree with this but

1988
01:18:14,870 --> 01:18:12,640
i i am a product of of the national

1989
01:18:16,149 --> 01:18:14,880
security apparatus i do not believe in

1990
01:18:18,229 --> 01:18:16,159
leaking i'm not a leaker

1991
01:18:20,310 --> 01:18:18,239
i will not leak and i don't recommend

1992
01:18:21,990 --> 01:18:20,320
anybody leak i don't think that's the

1993
01:18:23,830 --> 01:18:22,000
way to do it now i know

1994
01:18:25,030 --> 01:18:23,840
uh we get these titillating videos and

1995
01:18:26,149 --> 01:18:25,040
people look at it and say well

1996
01:18:28,149 --> 01:18:26,159
fantastic that's great it helps a

1997
01:18:29,669 --> 01:18:28,159
conversation and maybe it does

1998
01:18:32,149 --> 01:18:29,679
but i think there's another way to do it

1999
01:18:34,310 --> 01:18:32,159
i don't condone leaking um

2000
01:18:35,590 --> 01:18:34,320
uh it's it's just something in my in my

2001
01:18:37,990 --> 01:18:35,600
ethos something that

2002
01:18:39,510 --> 01:18:38,000
is has been ingrained in me and i

2003
01:18:41,110 --> 01:18:39,520
personally would never do it and nor

2004
01:18:42,550 --> 01:18:41,120
would i ever recommend a friend or a

2005
01:18:43,110 --> 01:18:42,560
colleague or anybody else that i ever

2006
01:18:46,630 --> 01:18:43,120
knew

2007
01:18:48,470 --> 01:18:46,640
to to leak um where are they coming from

2008
01:18:49,590 --> 01:18:48,480
well i i suspect they're coming when you

2009
01:18:50,630 --> 01:18:49,600
look at some of them they're coming from

2010
01:18:52,630 --> 01:18:50,640
inside the ship

2011
01:18:54,390 --> 01:18:52,640
so people are on board ships with some

2012
01:18:54,950 --> 01:18:54,400
sort of recording device whether it's a

2013
01:18:57,270 --> 01:18:54,960
personal

2014
01:18:58,870 --> 01:18:57,280
uh cell phone device uh which i don't

2015
01:19:01,669 --> 01:18:58,880
think is authorized on the bridge

2016
01:19:02,149 --> 01:19:01,679
uh or some other recording device there

2017
01:19:03,990 --> 01:19:02,159
these

2018
01:19:05,350 --> 01:19:04,000
things are are being recorded and they

2019
01:19:06,390 --> 01:19:05,360
are being released and when they are

2020
01:19:08,390 --> 01:19:06,400
being recorded

2021
01:19:09,590 --> 01:19:08,400
if they are being put on an unclassified

2022
01:19:11,350 --> 01:19:09,600
system then

2023
01:19:12,709 --> 01:19:11,360
it's it's the wild west because if it's

2024
01:19:13,990 --> 01:19:12,719
not an unclassified system

2025
01:19:16,149 --> 01:19:14,000
and the information is truly

2026
01:19:17,830 --> 01:19:16,159
unclassified might be for fo you o

2027
01:19:19,910 --> 01:19:17,840
permission for official use only

2028
01:19:21,590 --> 01:19:19,920
but if it's unclassified then the

2029
01:19:23,430 --> 01:19:21,600
penalties for releasing that information

2030
01:19:25,110 --> 01:19:23,440
is much much less than

2031
01:19:26,550 --> 01:19:25,120
leaking classified information like we

2032
01:19:29,830 --> 01:19:26,560
saw with snowden

2033
01:19:32,870 --> 01:19:29,840
or or some of the other big leakers uh

2034
01:19:35,510 --> 01:19:32,880
involved in in recent history

2035
01:19:36,070 --> 01:19:35,520
that's classified national security

2036
01:19:37,910 --> 01:19:36,080
secret

2037
01:19:39,910 --> 01:19:37,920
that that that's that's a serious

2038
01:19:42,870 --> 01:19:39,920
serious crime that's a felony

2039
01:19:44,390 --> 01:19:42,880
uh in this particular case there's

2040
01:19:46,070 --> 01:19:44,400
probably people that are leaking

2041
01:19:47,430 --> 01:19:46,080
information that they feel is probably

2042
01:19:48,709 --> 01:19:47,440
not going to get them in too much

2043
01:19:49,430 --> 01:19:48,719
trouble and they could probably get away

2044
01:19:50,630 --> 01:19:49,440
with it

2045
01:19:52,470 --> 01:19:50,640
plus the fact that it's on an

2046
01:19:54,229 --> 01:19:52,480
unclassified system anybody and

2047
01:19:56,390 --> 01:19:54,239
everybody can access it who the hell

2048
01:19:57,350 --> 01:19:56,400
knows in the intelligence community how

2049
01:19:59,110 --> 01:19:57,360
it got out

2050
01:20:00,630 --> 01:19:59,120
uh it can be air-gapped out it can be

2051
01:20:02,630 --> 01:20:00,640
put on a thumb drive it can be put on a

2052
01:20:03,669 --> 01:20:02,640
cd-rom it can be emailed to a friend a

2053
01:20:06,070 --> 01:20:03,679
relative a pal

2054
01:20:07,830 --> 01:20:06,080
you know a lover uh who knows there's

2055
01:20:08,709 --> 01:20:07,840
all sorts of ways that this these things

2056
01:20:10,950 --> 01:20:08,719
happen

2057
01:20:12,550 --> 01:20:10,960
um you know i suspect people are

2058
01:20:13,669 --> 01:20:12,560
probably getting fed up and tired of the

2059
01:20:16,390 --> 01:20:13,679
bs

2060
01:20:17,750 --> 01:20:16,400
uh they they they see something they get

2061
01:20:19,669 --> 01:20:17,760
frustrated you heard it from alex

2062
01:20:20,950 --> 01:20:19,679
dietrich and dave fravor themselves that

2063
01:20:22,070 --> 01:20:20,960
when they came back to the nimitz they

2064
01:20:23,830 --> 01:20:22,080
were ridiculed

2065
01:20:25,910 --> 01:20:23,840
they got frustrated they said look it's

2066
01:20:27,189 --> 01:20:25,920
no laughing matter i saw what i saw

2067
01:20:28,790 --> 01:20:27,199
it's the same thing now that when you

2068
01:20:31,350 --> 01:20:28,800
talk to some elected officials today and

2069
01:20:33,910 --> 01:20:31,360
i'm not going to go into details who

2070
01:20:35,189 --> 01:20:33,920
they they still laugh when they say hey

2071
01:20:35,750 --> 01:20:35,199
president obama had mentioned that

2072
01:20:37,590 --> 01:20:35,760
there's

2073
01:20:39,430 --> 01:20:37,600
things in our sky in our restricted

2074
01:20:40,709 --> 01:20:39,440
airspace that we don't know what it is

2075
01:20:42,310 --> 01:20:40,719
what do you say about that they just

2076
01:20:43,830 --> 01:20:42,320
kind of laugh it off well my response is

2077
01:20:46,709 --> 01:20:43,840
if you think

2078
01:20:48,070 --> 01:20:46,719
foreign aircraft or uaps or anything

2079
01:20:49,510 --> 01:20:48,080
that we don't know what it is if you

2080
01:20:50,870 --> 01:20:49,520
think it's a laughing matter that the

2081
01:20:52,310 --> 01:20:50,880
things are coming into our controlled

2082
01:20:54,310 --> 01:20:52,320
u.s air space

2083
01:20:56,070 --> 01:20:54,320
then then you you probably got to do

2084
01:20:57,669 --> 01:20:56,080
some soul searching

2085
01:20:59,669 --> 01:20:57,679
we have controlled u.s airspace over

2086
01:21:01,669 --> 01:20:59,679
washington dc and other areas and

2087
01:21:03,910 --> 01:21:01,679
and and critical dod facilities for a

2088
01:21:04,950 --> 01:21:03,920
reason okay otherwise if you don't care

2089
01:21:05,350 --> 01:21:04,960
and you think it's a laughing matter

2090
01:21:07,669 --> 01:21:05,360
then

2091
01:21:08,629 --> 01:21:07,679
you know what the next time a 737 buzz

2092
01:21:11,590 --> 01:21:08,639
is the white house

2093
01:21:12,629 --> 01:21:11,600
or the capital don't call me because you

2094
01:21:14,870 --> 01:21:12,639
don't care

2095
01:21:16,709 --> 01:21:14,880
you know obviously that's not the case

2096
01:21:18,550 --> 01:21:16,719
obviously people do care

2097
01:21:19,750 --> 01:21:18,560
and i think our elected officials if

2098
01:21:21,430 --> 01:21:19,760
these things were flying over

2099
01:21:22,470 --> 01:21:21,440
over washington dc they'd probably have

2100
01:21:23,510 --> 01:21:22,480
a little bit different attitude and

2101
01:21:27,189 --> 01:21:23,520
let's not forget

2102
01:21:28,550 --> 01:21:27,199
men and women in uniform are reporting

2103
01:21:30,470 --> 01:21:28,560
these things not too far

2104
01:21:31,910 --> 01:21:30,480
off off the coast pretty close to

2105
01:21:34,229 --> 01:21:31,920
washington d.c

2106
01:21:35,669 --> 01:21:34,239
so okay they may not be over washington

2107
01:21:37,990 --> 01:21:35,679
d.c today

2108
01:21:38,950 --> 01:21:38,000
but you know tomorrow is another day and

2109
01:21:40,790 --> 01:21:38,960
so

2110
01:21:42,310 --> 01:21:40,800
i would just remind people that i don't

2111
01:21:43,669 --> 01:21:42,320
think this is a laughing matter anymore

2112
01:21:45,910 --> 01:21:43,679
maybe three years ago

2113
01:21:47,590 --> 01:21:45,920
maybe five years ago ten years ago but

2114
01:21:50,229 --> 01:21:47,600
we've come a long way since then

2115
01:21:51,590 --> 01:21:50,239
and that natural reaction to laugh this

2116
01:21:54,310 --> 01:21:51,600
off shows how far

2117
01:21:56,229 --> 01:21:54,320
stigma and taboo has really penetrated

2118
01:21:58,709 --> 01:21:56,239
the the american psyche

2119
01:22:00,470 --> 01:21:58,719
it's not a laughing matter i i don't see

2120
01:22:03,270 --> 01:22:00,480
see the humor in this at all

2121
01:22:03,750 --> 01:22:03,280
there's another there's another point to

2122
01:22:07,030 --> 01:22:03,760
this

2123
01:22:09,430 --> 01:22:07,040
that i think is a should be a concern

2124
01:22:10,790 --> 01:22:09,440
and i don't know why it's not the leaks

2125
01:22:12,870 --> 01:22:10,800
are happening they're going into the

2126
01:22:15,750 --> 01:22:12,880
media they're all over the place

2127
01:22:18,149 --> 01:22:15,760
uh certainly the pentagon is aware of it

2128
01:22:21,669 --> 01:22:18,159
so much so that they made comments

2129
01:22:24,310 --> 01:22:21,679
saying confirming yes this

2130
01:22:25,830 --> 01:22:24,320
is some of the material that is part of

2131
01:22:28,629 --> 01:22:25,840
the uap

2132
01:22:30,310 --> 01:22:28,639
tf report that is being compiled this is

2133
01:22:33,189 --> 01:22:30,320
some of the evidence

2134
01:22:33,990 --> 01:22:33,199
but there they don't seem concerned

2135
01:22:36,870 --> 01:22:34,000
there wasn't

2136
01:22:38,629 --> 01:22:36,880
any reaction to it you know let's put a

2137
01:22:40,310 --> 01:22:38,639
stop to these leaks we don't know where

2138
01:22:42,070 --> 01:22:40,320
it's coming from but

2139
01:22:43,430 --> 01:22:42,080
we're putting whoever's leaking we're

2140
01:22:45,510 --> 01:22:43,440
going to put them on notice

2141
01:22:47,270 --> 01:22:45,520
that there was nobody even admit

2142
01:22:48,470 --> 01:22:47,280
information on wikileaks was cloud they

2143
01:22:49,669 --> 01:22:48,480
wouldn't confirm or deny it that was

2144
01:22:52,070 --> 01:22:49,679
even american

2145
01:22:53,270 --> 01:22:52,080
classified intelligence information so

2146
01:22:55,030 --> 01:22:53,280
now you have these

2147
01:22:56,550 --> 01:22:55,040
leaks coming from other sources and

2148
01:22:58,229 --> 01:22:56,560
within hours if not

2149
01:22:59,510 --> 01:22:58,239
minutes they're saying yep that's ours

2150
01:23:00,229 --> 01:22:59,520
and it was used for our training

2151
01:23:02,070 --> 01:23:00,239
material

2152
01:23:03,510 --> 01:23:02,080
wait a minute i thought you had a policy

2153
01:23:05,590 --> 01:23:03,520
of not confirming or denying anything

2154
01:23:08,149 --> 01:23:05,600
that's right why why are we changing the

2155
01:23:09,430 --> 01:23:08,159
script now why why is it now convenient

2156
01:23:11,110 --> 01:23:09,440
to go ahead and do it now i have my

2157
01:23:12,709 --> 01:23:11,120
speculation and i'll share with you and

2158
01:23:14,310 --> 01:23:12,719
your audience what i think is happening

2159
01:23:16,950 --> 01:23:14,320
i think it's a knee-jerk reaction i

2160
01:23:19,430 --> 01:23:16,960
think they've gotten beat up so bad

2161
01:23:20,070 --> 01:23:19,440
by the fact that they have kept saying

2162
01:23:21,669 --> 01:23:20,080
no no no

2163
01:23:23,669 --> 01:23:21,679
nothing to see here folks and they keep

2164
01:23:25,350 --> 01:23:23,679
getting proven wrong

2165
01:23:27,110 --> 01:23:25,360
that now they're just kind of it's a

2166
01:23:29,669 --> 01:23:27,120
knee-jerk reaction just to say uncle

2167
01:23:31,669 --> 01:23:29,679
yes yes yes fine just leave us alone

2168
01:23:33,110 --> 01:23:31,679
we're you know it's it's it's real

2169
01:23:35,189 --> 01:23:33,120
we're trying to be forthcoming and

2170
01:23:36,310 --> 01:23:35,199
transparent you know don't ask us any

2171
01:23:39,669 --> 01:23:36,320
more questions

2172
01:23:42,149 --> 01:23:39,679
that is my my current

2173
01:23:42,790 --> 01:23:42,159
understanding of the situation it's this

2174
01:23:46,070 --> 01:23:42,800
weird

2175
01:23:47,669 --> 01:23:46,080
uh almost schizophrenic approach to this

2176
01:23:49,350 --> 01:23:47,679
topic they really for the first time

2177
01:23:50,950 --> 01:23:49,360
don't know how to handle this because it

2178
01:23:51,990 --> 01:23:50,960
is becoming it's like grabbing a tiger

2179
01:23:53,990 --> 01:23:52,000
by the tail

2180
01:23:55,030 --> 01:23:54,000
uh you don't know what you know you

2181
01:23:57,030 --> 01:23:55,040
don't know what you got now

2182
01:23:58,470 --> 01:23:57,040
all of a sudden this thing is it's a

2183
01:24:00,229 --> 01:23:58,480
wild um

2184
01:24:01,590 --> 01:24:00,239
and it's another thing too i will tell

2185
01:24:01,990 --> 01:24:01,600
you when i when i spoke to john

2186
01:24:03,910 --> 01:24:02,000
greenwald

2187
01:24:05,510 --> 01:24:03,920
i i meant this just gonna bring up

2188
01:24:07,590 --> 01:24:05,520
greenwald right now

2189
01:24:09,189 --> 01:24:07,600
okay go go well listen he did he did a

2190
01:24:10,629 --> 01:24:09,199
great job yes again he's another guy

2191
01:24:12,790 --> 01:24:10,639
that haven't always seen eye to eye but

2192
01:24:14,709 --> 01:24:12,800
i respect the work he's doing he's done

2193
01:24:16,229 --> 01:24:14,719
a phenomenal job he's absolutely one of

2194
01:24:17,110 --> 01:24:16,239
the one of the world premiere foia

2195
01:24:20,229 --> 01:24:17,120
experts

2196
01:24:21,750 --> 01:24:20,239
bar none bar none for sure whether you

2197
01:24:23,350 --> 01:24:21,760
know you like the guy or you don't

2198
01:24:25,590 --> 01:24:23,360
bottom line is that we need him on our

2199
01:24:28,149 --> 01:24:25,600
side period um

2200
01:24:28,870 --> 01:24:28,159
you know it's it's i was talking to him

2201
01:24:33,430 --> 01:24:28,880
and

2202
01:24:35,350 --> 01:24:33,440
of the people in the pao office

2203
01:24:36,790 --> 01:24:35,360
that uh it's been explained to me by a

2204
01:24:37,270 --> 01:24:36,800
friend of mine inside the pentagon they

2205
01:24:40,629 --> 01:24:37,280
said

2206
01:24:42,870 --> 01:24:40,639
they consider john greenwald like like

2207
01:24:44,550 --> 01:24:42,880
being inside of a phone booth with a

2208
01:24:47,030 --> 01:24:44,560
sleeping gorilla

2209
01:24:47,830 --> 01:24:47,040
and and we just don't want to wake up

2210
01:24:50,390 --> 01:24:47,840
the gorilla

2211
01:24:51,030 --> 01:24:50,400
because every time he starts to get you

2212
01:24:53,750 --> 01:24:51,040
know

2213
01:24:54,950 --> 01:24:53,760
unsettled it's very painful experience

2214
01:24:56,470 --> 01:24:54,960
for us and so

2215
01:24:59,270 --> 01:24:56,480
uh which tells me it's working which

2216
01:25:01,990 --> 01:24:59,280
tells me that that that constant barrage

2217
01:25:03,750 --> 01:25:02,000
uh of that work that john is doing is

2218
01:25:05,590 --> 01:25:03,760
making a difference that's exactly what

2219
01:25:08,310 --> 01:25:05,600
you want you want them to be a

2220
01:25:10,149 --> 01:25:08,320
a proverbial thorn in your side that's

2221
01:25:11,430 --> 01:25:10,159
how you keep the government honest and

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fair and transparent

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it should be difficult if i was a pao i

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would

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01:25:22,470 --> 01:25:20,880
think of god how am i going to address

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01:25:23,189 --> 01:25:22,480
this next question because i've got to

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01:25:26,310 --> 01:25:23,199
be honest

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01:25:27,590 --> 01:25:26,320
i i can't lie but at the same time

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01:25:29,350 --> 01:25:27,600
trying to protect the interests and the

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01:25:32,070 --> 01:25:29,360
equities of the department

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01:25:33,990 --> 01:25:32,080
they're not in necessarily a fun spot my

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01:25:35,910 --> 01:25:34,000
problem is when the pao

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01:25:38,390 --> 01:25:35,920
steps over that line and they they

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01:25:40,709 --> 01:25:38,400
willfully lie they say look i

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01:25:42,550 --> 01:25:40,719
i know the information is not what i'm

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01:25:45,510 --> 01:25:42,560
being told by a couple people

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01:25:46,070 --> 01:25:45,520
uh and and uh but i'm gonna toe the line

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01:25:47,910 --> 01:25:46,080
anyways

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01:25:49,590 --> 01:25:47,920
you know you have a moral obligation and

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01:25:51,110 --> 01:25:49,600
a professional responsibility for the

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01:25:52,550 --> 01:25:51,120
department and the american people

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01:25:54,550 --> 01:25:52,560
to tell the truth and if you don't want

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01:25:56,629 --> 01:25:54,560
to answer just say no comment

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01:25:59,110 --> 01:25:56,639
but don't lie and that's what's

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01:26:02,229 --> 01:25:59,120
happening yeah it's uh his relentless

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01:26:03,910 --> 01:26:02,239
john greenwald's relentless pursuit once

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01:26:06,470 --> 01:26:03,920
he gets a sent

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01:26:07,110 --> 01:26:06,480
it's over right he is going to write it

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01:26:10,629 --> 01:26:07,120
out

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01:26:13,830 --> 01:26:10,639
but it has been his relentless uh

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01:26:16,629 --> 01:26:13,840
work over these last few years

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01:26:18,629 --> 01:26:16,639
that revealed this email situation and

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01:26:21,750 --> 01:26:18,639
if it wasn't for john

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01:26:23,990 --> 01:26:21,760
this would be no harm no foul

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01:26:25,510 --> 01:26:24,000
it wouldn't have come to light and uh

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01:26:27,030 --> 01:26:25,520
you know what mainstream media is

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01:26:29,110 --> 01:26:27,040
picking up on it they're beginning to

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01:26:31,910 --> 01:26:29,120
realize that john greenwald

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01:26:33,910 --> 01:26:31,920
he he's he he knows his stuff man and

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01:26:35,189 --> 01:26:33,920
they're beginning to learn from his cues

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01:26:36,229 --> 01:26:35,199
they're kind of going hey john you know

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01:26:37,270 --> 01:26:36,239
what did you find out how are you

2263
01:26:38,709 --> 01:26:37,280
getting this information how are you

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01:26:41,430 --> 01:26:38,719
getting these responses

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01:26:41,830 --> 01:26:41,440
um he is absolutely making a difference

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01:26:45,350 --> 01:26:41,840
uh

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01:26:47,030 --> 01:26:45,360
really quick

2268
01:26:48,870 --> 01:26:47,040
this goes back you know three years

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01:26:50,870 --> 01:26:48,880
three and a half years three years

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01:26:53,830 --> 01:26:50,880
john and i were having these constant

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01:26:56,070 --> 01:26:53,840
phone calls look you know just trying to

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01:26:57,830 --> 01:26:56,080
figure out the ebb and flow of and we

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01:27:00,950 --> 01:26:57,840
just knew that something was funky

2274
01:27:03,350 --> 01:27:00,960
something was funky that

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01:27:05,990 --> 01:27:03,360
you cannot you cannot say one thing and

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01:27:07,750 --> 01:27:06,000
then we started to get the backtracks

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01:27:09,910 --> 01:27:07,760
and the covering up and when you're a

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01:27:11,430 --> 01:27:09,920
pao and you're saying things

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01:27:13,189 --> 01:27:11,440
you've got to remember what you said in

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01:27:16,470 --> 01:27:13,199
the past too as well

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01:27:19,510 --> 01:27:16,480
everything moving forward has got to be

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01:27:21,990 --> 01:27:19,520
consistent and right now it has been

2283
01:27:22,790 --> 01:27:22,000
inconsistent it's been the opposite of

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01:27:24,790 --> 01:27:22,800
that

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01:27:27,030 --> 01:27:24,800
it's a train wreck yeah it is a train

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01:27:28,629 --> 01:27:27,040
wreck it is a train wreck

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01:27:30,629 --> 01:27:28,639
honestly it makes me sad because a lot

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01:27:32,070 --> 01:27:30,639
of these people you know they represent

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01:27:33,510 --> 01:27:32,080
the department and the department for

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01:27:34,870 --> 01:27:33,520
the most part is full of very good

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01:27:36,790 --> 01:27:34,880
patriotic people

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01:27:38,870 --> 01:27:36,800
that want to do the right thing and for

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01:27:40,310 --> 01:27:38,880
me to see this in witnesses

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01:27:42,310 --> 01:27:40,320
you know i almost to some degree

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01:27:43,430 --> 01:27:42,320
honestly honestly jimmy i feel a little

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01:27:45,110 --> 01:27:43,440
responsible

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01:27:47,910 --> 01:27:45,120
i feel like if if those people in the

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01:27:49,270 --> 01:27:47,920
pentagon didn't hate me so much

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01:27:51,350 --> 01:27:49,280
maybe they'd be a little bit more

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01:27:54,070 --> 01:27:51,360
forthcoming and i do

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01:27:54,870 --> 01:27:54,080
feel guilty about that because you know

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01:27:57,510 --> 01:27:54,880
um

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01:27:58,149 --> 01:27:57,520
i i think i think the entire department

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01:28:02,070 --> 01:27:58,159
is being

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01:28:04,709 --> 01:28:02,080
pulled down the wrong road

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01:28:06,149 --> 01:28:04,719
by a few people and then they have

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01:28:07,669 --> 01:28:06,159
allowed that to happen

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01:28:09,350 --> 01:28:07,679
and it's really a poor reflection on the

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01:28:12,950 --> 01:28:09,360
department and in reality it's

2310
01:28:16,070 --> 01:28:12,960
it's not it's not it's not um

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01:28:17,830 --> 01:28:16,080
that is not a a a holistic

2312
01:28:19,830 --> 01:28:17,840
accurate view of the entire department

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01:28:21,430 --> 01:28:19,840
the entire department does a very very

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01:28:22,709 --> 01:28:21,440
good job there's no question about it

2315
01:28:25,590 --> 01:28:22,719
it's very organized

2316
01:28:26,470 --> 01:28:25,600
very organized but you start pulling at

2317
01:28:28,709 --> 01:28:26,480
that thread

2318
01:28:30,229 --> 01:28:28,719
like the ig is you know going to start

2319
01:28:33,350 --> 01:28:30,239
pulling at this thread

2320
01:28:35,510 --> 01:28:33,360
there is when you when you go back um i

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01:28:38,550 --> 01:28:35,520
need to take a break in 60 seconds but

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01:28:42,390 --> 01:28:38,560
let me say this and get your reaction um

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01:28:44,550 --> 01:28:42,400
if you um say one thing

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01:28:46,070 --> 01:28:44,560
and you affect the community right the

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01:28:46,550 --> 01:28:46,080
community is believing what you're

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01:28:49,270 --> 01:28:46,560
saying

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01:28:49,830 --> 01:28:49,280
uaps are real right these videos are

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01:28:51,830 --> 01:28:49,840
real

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01:28:53,189 --> 01:28:51,840
and then you turn around and you say an

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01:28:55,590 --> 01:28:53,199
untruth

2331
01:28:57,590 --> 01:28:55,600
now the community is going to believe

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01:28:58,550 --> 01:28:57,600
the untruth because they are believing

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01:29:02,390 --> 01:28:58,560
the other part

2334
01:29:03,750 --> 01:29:02,400
or now we're in a road of of tumbling

2335
01:29:06,790 --> 01:29:03,760
paradoxes

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01:29:11,110 --> 01:29:06,800
right which now which which part which

2337
01:29:12,550 --> 01:29:11,120
part is true

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01:29:13,990 --> 01:29:12,560
and if you've got a witness that lies

2339
01:29:15,189 --> 01:29:14,000
about one thing well you've got to throw

2340
01:29:17,110 --> 01:29:15,199
the whole testimony up

2341
01:29:18,709 --> 01:29:17,120
because now you can't trust any of it

2342
01:29:20,709 --> 01:29:18,719
and so

2343
01:29:22,310 --> 01:29:20,719
it goes back to well now what about the

2344
01:29:25,430 --> 01:29:22,320
uaps what

2345
01:29:26,229 --> 01:29:25,440
was that true was is this and that's the

2346
01:29:27,910 --> 01:29:26,239
confusion

2347
01:29:30,070 --> 01:29:27,920
and the ig's going to start pulling out

2348
01:29:31,430 --> 01:29:30,080
these threads there's going to be some

2349
01:29:34,390 --> 01:29:31,440
splaining to do

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01:29:36,149 --> 01:29:34,400
uh very soon let's take our break right

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01:29:36,950 --> 01:29:36,159
here this is fade to black i'm yours to

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01:29:40,070 --> 01:29:36,960
be church

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01:29:41,270 --> 01:29:40,080
lou elizondo we've got so much to talk

2354
01:29:42,629 --> 01:29:41,280
about tonight

2355
01:29:44,709 --> 01:29:42,639
i'm gonna pick up where we're leaving

2356
01:29:46,390 --> 01:29:44,719
off right here but then i gotta talk

2357
01:29:47,510 --> 01:29:46,400
about 60 minutes we'll do all of that

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01:29:56,100 --> 01:29:47,520
when we come back

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[Music]

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way out here we listen to jimmy church

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and where we're headed do you wonder

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about the food supply

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i do disruptions in the food supply

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chain could be disastrous

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and they usually occur with little

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2441
01:33:42,070 --> 01:33:37,270
you are listening to fate to black with

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01:33:45,669 --> 01:33:44,550
hi i'm rhys evans you're listening to

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01:33:48,790 --> 01:33:45,679
jimmy church

2444
01:33:50,149 --> 01:33:48,800
this is revolution the revolution will

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01:34:02,830 --> 01:33:50,159
not be televised

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01:34:32,280 --> 01:34:05,740
ciao

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[Music]

2448
01:34:39,350 --> 01:34:37,669
all right welcome back fade to black our

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01:34:41,669 --> 01:34:39,360
guest tonight lou elizondo

2450
01:34:42,470 --> 01:34:41,679
and it's hot in here luke it's it's it's

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01:34:45,590 --> 01:34:42,480
it's it's

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01:34:48,950 --> 01:34:45,600
it's hot it's

2453
01:34:51,669 --> 01:34:48,960
hot the new microphone man

2454
01:34:52,950 --> 01:34:51,679
everybody's hearing everything you've

2455
01:34:54,790 --> 01:34:52,960
got to say tonight

2456
01:34:57,189 --> 01:34:54,800
now i want to um i'm going to shift

2457
01:35:00,070 --> 01:34:57,199
gears i wanted to continue but

2458
01:35:00,709 --> 01:35:00,080
um we've got too much to discuss tonight

2459
01:35:03,910 --> 01:35:00,719
and

2460
01:35:07,189 --> 01:35:03,920
one of them is a 60 minutes

2461
01:35:09,109 --> 01:35:07,199
now as cool as it was and it was great

2462
01:35:10,629 --> 01:35:09,119
it was great that got out to the masses

2463
01:35:14,870 --> 01:35:10,639
no doubt about it

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01:35:18,470 --> 01:35:14,880
uh kudos to you but i think there was a

2465
01:35:19,590 --> 01:35:18,480
a list of mis opportunities uh that went

2466
01:35:22,629 --> 01:35:19,600
down with that

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01:35:25,990 --> 01:35:22,639
and i want to address a few of these uh

2468
01:35:29,270 --> 01:35:26,000
and get your thoughts uh the first thing

2469
01:35:32,149 --> 01:35:29,280
is that ufos um

2470
01:35:33,590 --> 01:35:32,159
and let me clarify the world understands

2471
01:35:35,750 --> 01:35:33,600
what ufos are

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01:35:37,430 --> 01:35:35,760
they think alien they think et they

2473
01:35:40,310 --> 01:35:37,440
think off-world

2474
01:35:41,990 --> 01:35:40,320
uh interstellar that's what a ufo means

2475
01:35:45,430 --> 01:35:42,000
unidentified flying object

2476
01:35:48,629 --> 01:35:45,440
maybe but in pop culture ufos means

2477
01:35:49,350 --> 01:35:48,639
flying saucers okay so it was only

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01:35:51,910 --> 01:35:49,360
mentioned

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01:35:53,270 --> 01:35:51,920
once in the very beginning of the

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01:35:56,310 --> 01:35:53,280
presentation

2481
01:35:59,109 --> 01:35:56,320
after that it shifted to uaps

2482
01:36:01,430 --> 01:35:59,119
and if somebody came in late into the

2483
01:36:03,350 --> 01:36:01,440
thing and missed the ufo comment

2484
01:36:05,510 --> 01:36:03,360
they probably wouldn't have understood

2485
01:36:10,550 --> 01:36:05,520
what you guys were talking about

2486
01:36:14,470 --> 01:36:10,560
and the the alien aspect of this

2487
01:36:17,669 --> 01:36:14,480
got lost was that a missed opportunity

2488
01:36:20,709 --> 01:36:17,679
should ufos have been mentioned uh

2489
01:36:24,229 --> 01:36:20,719
throughout that and and

2490
01:36:24,870 --> 01:36:24,239
equating that to uap so very fair

2491
01:36:27,270 --> 01:36:24,880
question

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01:36:28,229 --> 01:36:27,280
uh jimmy and let me let me start by

2493
01:36:31,350 --> 01:36:28,239
saying

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01:36:32,709 --> 01:36:31,360
this is the first time in the history of

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01:36:35,750 --> 01:36:32,719
60 minutes

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01:36:38,070 --> 01:36:35,760
that they decided to do a program on

2497
01:36:40,149 --> 01:36:38,080
ufos okay so they were taking a huge

2498
01:36:42,470 --> 01:36:40,159
risk and really until the day it

2499
01:36:43,510 --> 01:36:42,480
actually ran there were still elements

2500
01:36:45,109 --> 01:36:43,520
in in

2501
01:36:46,790 --> 01:36:45,119
in cbs that didn't want to run it they

2502
01:36:48,149 --> 01:36:46,800
were they were saying it's too risky

2503
01:36:50,950 --> 01:36:48,159
we don't want to put our credibility at

2504
01:36:53,590 --> 01:36:50,960
stake um it's it's it's too high risk

2505
01:36:55,030 --> 01:36:53,600
right because we have a we have a a we

2506
01:36:58,070 --> 01:36:55,040
have a reputation for being

2507
01:37:01,750 --> 01:36:58,080
serious and accurate and and and

2508
01:37:04,950 --> 01:37:01,760
no bs right so this was a monumental

2509
01:37:07,430 --> 01:37:04,960
effort to get to get this now

2510
01:37:08,790 --> 01:37:07,440
this was a test balloon what most people

2511
01:37:11,590 --> 01:37:08,800
may not know is that

2512
01:37:13,350 --> 01:37:11,600
without going into a lot of detail don't

2513
01:37:14,950 --> 01:37:13,360
be surprised if there's follow-on

2514
01:37:16,229 --> 01:37:14,960
reporting on this this was just dipping

2515
01:37:17,990 --> 01:37:16,239
a toe into the water

2516
01:37:19,830 --> 01:37:18,000
keeping in mind that the audience of 60

2517
01:37:20,950 --> 01:37:19,840
minutes isn't necessarily your audience

2518
01:37:21,990 --> 01:37:20,960
you have people that are already

2519
01:37:24,870 --> 01:37:22,000
socialized

2520
01:37:26,790 --> 01:37:24,880
to the idea of ufos and uap we're

2521
01:37:29,189 --> 01:37:26,800
talking to people where 99

2522
01:37:31,030 --> 01:37:29,199
of them their only discussion ever of of

2523
01:37:32,470 --> 01:37:31,040
a ufo is either watching x files or

2524
01:37:35,910 --> 01:37:32,480
close encounters of the third kind

2525
01:37:38,629 --> 01:37:35,920
that's it it's been it's been complete

2526
01:37:40,229 --> 01:37:38,639
hollywood bs or fringe or something

2527
01:37:42,229 --> 01:37:40,239
where you see tinfoil hats and

2528
01:37:44,070 --> 01:37:42,239
people going to ufo conferences you know

2529
01:37:46,550 --> 01:37:44,080
wearing green morph suits

2530
01:37:47,750 --> 01:37:46,560
um that's that's not helpful to the

2531
01:37:50,790 --> 01:37:47,760
discussion and so

2532
01:37:53,910 --> 01:37:50,800
but it's also exactly my point

2533
01:37:55,430 --> 01:37:53,920
right that once you get off of the ufo

2534
01:37:58,950 --> 01:37:55,440
subject

2535
01:38:01,990 --> 01:37:58,960
now you're going to lose everybody as to

2536
01:38:04,390 --> 01:38:02,000
what it needed to come back to that

2537
01:38:05,669 --> 01:38:04,400
and it and it didn't i don't disagree

2538
01:38:06,550 --> 01:38:05,679
but let's let's go to the other part you

2539
01:38:08,629 --> 01:38:06,560
talk about

2540
01:38:10,550 --> 01:38:08,639
which i think is very very important too

2541
01:38:14,149 --> 01:38:10,560
uh you you talk about

2542
01:38:15,750 --> 01:38:14,159
the the the term uap versus ufo

2543
01:38:18,310 --> 01:38:15,760
i will tell you i'm many i am on a

2544
01:38:21,750 --> 01:38:18,320
personal crusade to correct the record

2545
01:38:22,629 --> 01:38:21,760
ufo was accurate in the 1950s when we

2546
01:38:25,510 --> 01:38:22,639
understood

2547
01:38:26,070 --> 01:38:25,520
newtonian physics it is not accurate

2548
01:38:28,149 --> 01:38:26,080
anymore

2549
01:38:29,750 --> 01:38:28,159
because first of all a unidentified

2550
01:38:31,830 --> 01:38:29,760
flying object

2551
01:38:33,910 --> 01:38:31,840
by definition is an object that's flying

2552
01:38:35,910 --> 01:38:33,920
now what is flying well it's it's the

2553
01:38:37,990 --> 01:38:35,920
it's the it's it's the ability to to

2554
01:38:40,229 --> 01:38:38,000
manage four fundamental forces

2555
01:38:41,750 --> 01:38:40,239
thrust lift drag and wait and when you

2556
01:38:43,189 --> 01:38:41,760
know how to manage those forces

2557
01:38:45,350 --> 01:38:43,199
you have things like wings and you have

2558
01:38:46,550 --> 01:38:45,360
lifting bodies control surfaces ailerons

2559
01:38:48,629 --> 01:38:46,560
elevators

2560
01:38:49,590 --> 01:38:48,639
and whatnot well these things don't have

2561
01:38:51,669 --> 01:38:49,600
that they don't have

2562
01:38:53,430 --> 01:38:51,679
wings they don't have control surfaces

2563
01:38:56,870 --> 01:38:53,440
they all have have rudders and

2564
01:38:59,270 --> 01:38:56,880
ailerons so to say that they are flying

2565
01:39:01,109 --> 01:38:59,280
is is may not even be accurate because

2566
01:39:02,870 --> 01:39:01,119
they are in the sky for sure

2567
01:39:04,310 --> 01:39:02,880
but whether these things are actually

2568
01:39:05,750 --> 01:39:04,320
flying is

2569
01:39:07,990 --> 01:39:05,760
we don't know because the physics

2570
01:39:11,350 --> 01:39:08,000
suggests something else that they are

2571
01:39:12,870 --> 01:39:11,360
able to maneuver in our atmosphere using

2572
01:39:15,590 --> 01:39:12,880
a fundamentally different

2573
01:39:17,189 --> 01:39:15,600
technology and so the term ufo yes not

2574
01:39:18,629 --> 01:39:17,199
only does it have a lot of stigma

2575
01:39:20,390 --> 01:39:18,639
but i don't even think it's accurate

2576
01:39:24,149 --> 01:39:20,400
anymore well why wasn't

2577
01:39:28,149 --> 01:39:24,159
that discussed okay but that

2578
01:39:30,149 --> 01:39:28,159
right there should have been discussed

2579
01:39:31,910 --> 01:39:30,159
but you've got 12 minutes and at the

2580
01:39:33,750 --> 01:39:31,920
same time you've got no pilots on there

2581
01:39:35,109 --> 01:39:33,760
you've got to get marco rubio on there

2582
01:39:37,430 --> 01:39:35,119
you've got to get the history of the

2583
01:39:39,510 --> 01:39:37,440
program you've got i mean that's a lot

2584
01:39:41,669 --> 01:39:39,520
try your radio program you've got two

2585
01:39:43,750 --> 01:39:41,679
hours to do deep dives imagine

2586
01:39:45,510 --> 01:39:43,760
trying to have this entire conversation

2587
01:39:49,510 --> 01:39:45,520
in twelve and a half minutes

2588
01:39:52,550 --> 01:39:49,520
now and and right back to you

2589
01:39:56,390 --> 01:39:52,560
um there was uh

2590
01:39:59,510 --> 01:39:56,400
uh the moment where you uh

2591
01:39:59,990 --> 01:39:59,520
said and it was excellent right you're

2592
01:40:03,430 --> 01:40:00,000
yeah

2593
01:40:04,310 --> 01:40:03,440
you know uh 17 000 miles per hour 750

2594
01:40:05,910 --> 01:40:04,320
g's

2595
01:40:08,629 --> 01:40:05,920
you know you gave up you know you went

2596
01:40:11,669 --> 01:40:08,639
right down the list

2597
01:40:14,310 --> 01:40:11,679
and they let it go right

2598
01:40:15,669 --> 01:40:14,320
you you brought up the four main points

2599
01:40:17,910 --> 01:40:15,679
they should have brought in

2600
01:40:18,790 --> 01:40:17,920
i i thought even if it was for 15

2601
01:40:21,990 --> 01:40:18,800
seconds

2602
01:40:26,470 --> 01:40:22,000
bring in a physicist to explain

2603
01:40:29,030 --> 01:40:26,480
what you just said and it was just

2604
01:40:29,910 --> 01:40:29,040
gone and i was i was at the edge of my

2605
01:40:33,669 --> 01:40:29,920
seat i was like go

2606
01:40:35,990 --> 01:40:33,679
lou go go go and

2607
01:40:37,990 --> 01:40:36,000
then it just got lost there was a lot

2608
01:40:39,830 --> 01:40:38,000
more that was cut unfortunately but

2609
01:40:41,109 --> 01:40:39,840
that's up to you know the editors we

2610
01:40:41,750 --> 01:40:41,119
don't have any control of that all we

2611
01:40:44,550 --> 01:40:41,760
can do is

2612
01:40:45,430 --> 01:40:44,560
is is discuss our perspective which is

2613
01:40:47,830 --> 01:40:45,440
what we did

2614
01:40:49,430 --> 01:40:47,840
um i think it's important to note that

2615
01:40:51,430 --> 01:40:49,440
that um

2616
01:40:52,870 --> 01:40:51,440
some of those details were were brought

2617
01:40:55,830 --> 01:40:52,880
out uh

2618
01:40:57,750 --> 01:40:55,840
you know it is up to cbs it's their

2619
01:41:00,629 --> 01:40:57,760
property to do what they want with it

2620
01:41:01,590 --> 01:41:00,639
but i would not be surprised uh hint

2621
01:41:04,470 --> 01:41:01,600
hint

2622
01:41:06,070 --> 01:41:04,480
if at some point there may be some some

2623
01:41:07,990 --> 01:41:06,080
some follow on because

2624
01:41:09,830 --> 01:41:08,000
right now it's it's from my

2625
01:41:11,430 --> 01:41:09,840
understanding it's it's it's i think

2626
01:41:13,590 --> 01:41:11,440
almost about to be the second most

2627
01:41:15,990 --> 01:41:13,600
watched cbs episode

2628
01:41:17,430 --> 01:41:16,000
for 60 minutes ever in the history of 60

2629
01:41:18,790 --> 01:41:17,440
minutes sure i heard that i don't know

2630
01:41:20,870 --> 01:41:18,800
if that's true but i was told that

2631
01:41:23,830 --> 01:41:20,880
something like 8 million views already

2632
01:41:25,350 --> 01:41:23,840
on youtube alone uh and you know once

2633
01:41:27,510 --> 01:41:25,360
you get to that 10 million mark

2634
01:41:28,709 --> 01:41:27,520
uh you know that's that's pretty

2635
01:41:31,030 --> 01:41:28,719
considerable

2636
01:41:32,709 --> 01:41:31,040
and the fact that that audience that's

2637
01:41:34,950 --> 01:41:32,719
never really been exposed to this topic

2638
01:41:37,270 --> 01:41:34,960
is now interested in it i think that's a

2639
01:41:38,870 --> 01:41:37,280
huge win and i congratulate cbs and

2640
01:41:41,350 --> 01:41:38,880
particularly bill whitaker

2641
01:41:42,310 --> 01:41:41,360
and graham uh for for putting their next

2642
01:41:43,830 --> 01:41:42,320
on the line

2643
01:41:45,270 --> 01:41:43,840
to cover this because there were a lot

2644
01:41:47,030 --> 01:41:45,280
of people that didn't want them to cover

2645
01:41:48,709 --> 01:41:47,040
it for sure and the pentagon kept saying

2646
01:41:51,669 --> 01:41:48,719
don't do it don't do it

2647
01:41:53,430 --> 01:41:51,679
and and they did it so you know i i

2648
01:41:55,669 --> 01:41:53,440
understand your frustration

2649
01:41:56,950 --> 01:41:55,679
uh but again i'd rather look at the

2650
01:41:59,109 --> 01:41:56,960
glass being half full

2651
01:41:59,990 --> 01:41:59,119
rather than half empty in this case

2652
01:42:02,709 --> 01:42:00,000
because it was a

2653
01:42:03,990 --> 01:42:02,719
huge step forward it reached a truly a

2654
01:42:07,189 --> 01:42:04,000
global audience

2655
01:42:08,229 --> 01:42:07,199
and were able to to to capitalize on

2656
01:42:10,550 --> 01:42:08,239
that momentum

2657
01:42:12,229 --> 01:42:10,560
to continue to have this discussion you

2658
01:42:13,109 --> 01:42:12,239
know you said that it's a global issue

2659
01:42:14,870 --> 01:42:13,119
which i agree

2660
01:42:17,030 --> 01:42:14,880
but not everybody's been socialized to

2661
01:42:17,590 --> 01:42:17,040
it there's a huge population in india

2662
01:42:19,030 --> 01:42:17,600
for a sec

2663
01:42:21,350 --> 01:42:19,040
for for example which has nearly a

2664
01:42:22,709 --> 01:42:21,360
billion people they don't they don't

2665
01:42:24,550 --> 01:42:22,719
talk about ufos

2666
01:42:25,750 --> 01:42:24,560
they don't they don't they don't talk

2667
01:42:27,109 --> 01:42:25,760
about it like we do

2668
01:42:29,109 --> 01:42:27,119
that's a problem because you have

2669
01:42:30,390 --> 01:42:29,119
pakistan and india that both have

2670
01:42:31,910 --> 01:42:30,400
nuclear weapons

2671
01:42:34,070 --> 01:42:31,920
and they're not very friendly with each

2672
01:42:36,310 --> 01:42:34,080
other can you imagine as if a uap

2673
01:42:37,510 --> 01:42:36,320
incident was mistaken for some sort of

2674
01:42:40,790 --> 01:42:37,520
hostile provocation

2675
01:42:42,310 --> 01:42:40,800
sure i mean so i i think i think we're

2676
01:42:44,709 --> 01:42:42,320
getting there i i truly

2677
01:42:46,629 --> 01:42:44,719
understand and respect your your your

2678
01:42:47,430 --> 01:42:46,639
impatience towards this but let's not

2679
01:42:49,590 --> 01:42:47,440
forget

2680
01:42:52,229 --> 01:42:49,600
you have been following this jimmy this

2681
01:42:53,669 --> 01:42:52,239
topic for a really long time

2682
01:42:55,510 --> 01:42:53,679
you have to understand that you're

2683
01:42:55,990 --> 01:42:55,520
asking people to grab a hold of a train

2684
01:42:58,950 --> 01:42:56,000
that's going

2685
01:43:00,790 --> 01:42:58,960
at a hundred miles an hour um you know

2686
01:43:02,470 --> 01:43:00,800
you've had time to catch up that train

2687
01:43:03,270 --> 01:43:02,480
wasn't moving that fast when you got

2688
01:43:05,510 --> 01:43:03,280
into this

2689
01:43:07,830 --> 01:43:05,520
that train is now moving that fast

2690
01:43:10,870 --> 01:43:07,840
station to grab it you know so

2691
01:43:12,070 --> 01:43:10,880
it certainly is and uh and and staying

2692
01:43:15,669 --> 01:43:12,080
on this though

2693
01:43:18,629 --> 01:43:15,679
uh with uh missed opportunities with uh

2694
01:43:20,310 --> 01:43:18,639
and i'll bring this up again uh ufo was

2695
01:43:24,390 --> 01:43:20,320
mentioned at the beginning

2696
01:43:27,830 --> 01:43:24,400
cool and then as the piece went along

2697
01:43:31,669 --> 01:43:27,840
it it appeared to me that cbs

2698
01:43:35,030 --> 01:43:31,679
started to shift to a russia china

2699
01:43:36,390 --> 01:43:35,040
drone conversation and you know what i

2700
01:43:38,709 --> 01:43:36,400
mean the ebb and flow

2701
01:43:40,390 --> 01:43:38,719
went into the other direction and in

2702
01:43:42,790 --> 01:43:40,400
closing you have to address it

2703
01:43:44,149 --> 01:43:42,800
you have to i don't you know i think we

2704
01:43:48,390 --> 01:43:44,159
can all sit here and agree that

2705
01:43:51,030 --> 01:43:48,400
the likelihood is is is extremely remote

2706
01:43:51,990 --> 01:43:51,040
but in to be a fair objective

2707
01:43:54,310 --> 01:43:52,000
journalists you've got

2708
01:43:55,510 --> 01:43:54,320
to at least address all sides of the

2709
01:43:57,590 --> 01:43:55,520
conversation

2710
01:43:59,430 --> 01:43:57,600
so you know they did they did what they

2711
01:44:00,229 --> 01:43:59,440
had to do so they could be fair and

2712
01:44:03,350 --> 01:44:00,239
unbiased and

2713
01:44:04,790 --> 01:44:03,360
and you know i i respect that um yeah

2714
01:44:05,109 --> 01:44:04,800
it's a little frustrating but you know

2715
01:44:07,669 --> 01:44:05,119
because

2716
01:44:08,950 --> 01:44:07,679
obviously being where i sat i i saw a

2717
01:44:11,430 --> 01:44:08,960
lot of things that i'm definitely

2718
01:44:12,709 --> 01:44:11,440
russian and chinese but but i can't talk

2719
01:44:13,830 --> 01:44:12,719
they'd say well really prove it well i

2720
01:44:15,590 --> 01:44:13,840
can't because they can't talk about

2721
01:44:17,270 --> 01:44:15,600
classified information so

2722
01:44:19,109 --> 01:44:17,280
so they have to go with what they have

2723
01:44:20,390 --> 01:44:19,119
and i i think you know again i think

2724
01:44:23,669 --> 01:44:20,400
they did a yeoman's job

2725
01:44:25,590 --> 01:44:23,679
really trying hard to thread that needle

2726
01:44:26,310 --> 01:44:25,600
and have the conversation in an elevated

2727
01:44:27,990 --> 01:44:26,320
way

2728
01:44:29,669 --> 01:44:28,000
that that didn't spook people didn't

2729
01:44:31,109 --> 01:44:29,679
people because by the way they did get

2730
01:44:32,870 --> 01:44:31,119
some flack they would be like i cannot

2731
01:44:34,870 --> 01:44:32,880
believe you're putting out this nonsense

2732
01:44:36,550 --> 01:44:34,880
this is complete garbage and crap you

2733
01:44:37,510 --> 01:44:36,560
know and and let's face it you know

2734
01:44:39,510 --> 01:44:37,520
these these are

2735
01:44:41,189 --> 01:44:39,520
organizations that rely on ratings and

2736
01:44:43,189 --> 01:44:41,199
rely on eyeballs on the set

2737
01:44:44,709 --> 01:44:43,199
um you know if you have if you have a

2738
01:44:46,629 --> 01:44:44,719
news program that nobody watches you're

2739
01:44:48,470 --> 01:44:46,639
not going to be around for very long so

2740
01:44:50,550 --> 01:44:48,480
so they've got to they've got to appeal

2741
01:44:52,310 --> 01:44:50,560
to a very broad audience you

2742
01:44:53,830 --> 01:44:52,320
you have the luxury of appealing to a

2743
01:44:56,310 --> 01:44:53,840
very niche audience

2744
01:44:57,590 --> 01:44:56,320
that's not the case for cbs and and and

2745
01:45:00,149 --> 01:44:57,600
60 minutes so

2746
01:45:01,430 --> 01:45:00,159
i get it again i i feel your frustration

2747
01:45:03,270 --> 01:45:01,440
i'm not disagreeing with you

2748
01:45:04,790 --> 01:45:03,280
at all believe me i feel your

2749
01:45:06,390 --> 01:45:04,800
frustration intimately

2750
01:45:08,229 --> 01:45:06,400
but i also understand that this is a

2751
01:45:10,709 --> 01:45:08,239
long game this is not

2752
01:45:12,870 --> 01:45:10,719
instant satisfaction this is not have

2753
01:45:16,229 --> 01:45:12,880
your hamburger your way right this is

2754
01:45:19,270 --> 01:45:16,239
we are trying to to get the the entire

2755
01:45:21,109 --> 01:45:19,280
herd to move from one side of the

2756
01:45:24,070 --> 01:45:21,119
prairie to the other side

2757
01:45:25,510 --> 01:45:24,080
um and and that's you know that takes a

2758
01:45:28,229 --> 01:45:25,520
lot of energy and it takes

2759
01:45:29,350 --> 01:45:28,239
time it's hard i understand it's hard to

2760
01:45:32,390 --> 01:45:29,360
do in 12 minutes

2761
01:45:34,629 --> 01:45:32,400
uh with cbs i totally get that

2762
01:45:36,870 --> 01:45:34,639
and this community you know is going to

2763
01:45:39,910 --> 01:45:36,880
watch that segment and totally get it i

2764
01:45:40,709 --> 01:45:39,920
understand what um what i'm worried

2765
01:45:42,709 --> 01:45:40,719
about

2766
01:45:43,750 --> 01:45:42,719
is that those out there that are being

2767
01:45:47,109 --> 01:45:43,760
exposed to this

2768
01:45:50,070 --> 01:45:47,119
to the for for the first time understood

2769
01:45:50,950 --> 01:45:50,080
what cbs was trying to present and you

2770
01:45:52,870 --> 01:45:50,960
but but that's

2771
01:45:54,470 --> 01:45:52,880
okay because you bring them under the

2772
01:45:55,910 --> 01:45:54,480
tent the tent is big enough for

2773
01:45:57,189 --> 01:45:55,920
everybody eventually people are gonna

2774
01:45:58,149 --> 01:45:57,199
come to their own conclusion and realize

2775
01:45:59,270 --> 01:45:58,159
what this is

2776
01:46:00,709 --> 01:45:59,280
at least now they're having the

2777
01:46:02,790 --> 01:46:00,719
conversation at least now we're at the

2778
01:46:04,390 --> 01:46:02,800
point where we know ufos are real

2779
01:46:05,750 --> 01:46:04,400
who gives a crap right now if people

2780
01:46:06,950 --> 01:46:05,760
think well if it's easier for them to

2781
01:46:08,709 --> 01:46:06,960
understand and think it's russian or

2782
01:46:11,030 --> 01:46:08,719
chinese or little green men from mars

2783
01:46:12,629 --> 01:46:11,040
or your neighbor's dog who cares because

2784
01:46:14,470 --> 01:46:12,639
now we're at least talking about it

2785
01:46:15,510 --> 01:46:14,480
and then give it time and people will

2786
01:46:16,950 --> 01:46:15,520
come to their own conclusion

2787
01:46:17,669 --> 01:46:16,960
understanding based upon the data and

2788
01:46:20,149 --> 01:46:17,679
the facts

2789
01:46:21,510 --> 01:46:20,159
where they will be led down the only

2790
01:46:24,709 --> 01:46:21,520
conclusion that there is

2791
01:46:27,830 --> 01:46:24,719
you just said ufos are real

2792
01:46:30,390 --> 01:46:27,840
see you did it yourself right there

2793
01:46:32,149 --> 01:46:30,400
you said it it that's that's that's what

2794
01:46:35,350 --> 01:46:32,159
everybody understands

2795
01:46:36,390 --> 01:46:35,360
and and even yourself and it's that was

2796
01:46:39,270 --> 01:46:36,400
the misstop

2797
01:46:39,990 --> 01:46:39,280
i was just hoping if you um and i want

2798
01:46:43,109 --> 01:46:40,000
to move on to

2799
01:46:45,430 --> 01:46:43,119
jan pasake uh in just a second um

2800
01:46:46,149 --> 01:46:45,440
in the previous segment on 60 minutes

2801
01:46:48,629 --> 01:46:46,159
with uh

2802
01:46:49,350 --> 01:46:48,639
anderson cooper which was about uh

2803
01:46:52,550 --> 01:46:49,360
facial

2804
01:46:53,109 --> 01:46:52,560
uh software identification they brought

2805
01:46:56,790 --> 01:46:53,119
in

2806
01:46:59,910 --> 01:46:56,800
um uh uh professionals experts

2807
01:47:02,790 --> 01:46:59,920
to explain exactly what they were

2808
01:47:03,590 --> 01:47:02,800
talking about and that was the part that

2809
01:47:05,350 --> 01:47:03,600
um

2810
01:47:07,910 --> 01:47:05,360
you know anderson it was effective it

2811
01:47:08,629 --> 01:47:07,920
was cool and that was the part that was

2812
01:47:12,070 --> 01:47:08,639
missing

2813
01:47:12,870 --> 01:47:12,080
um in in in that segment didn't bring in

2814
01:47:16,070 --> 01:47:12,880
a scientist

2815
01:47:18,229 --> 01:47:16,080
to explain uh what everybody is

2816
01:47:20,229 --> 01:47:18,239
referring to including you know when you

2817
01:47:22,390 --> 01:47:20,239
say 650 g's

2818
01:47:23,990 --> 01:47:22,400
you need to bring in a physicist

2819
01:47:27,590 --> 01:47:24,000
somebody to explain

2820
01:47:31,430 --> 01:47:27,600
what the implications of 650 gs are

2821
01:47:34,149 --> 01:47:31,440
you know 17 000 80 000 miles an hour

2822
01:47:35,590 --> 01:47:34,159
altitude changes um and and the

2823
01:47:38,149 --> 01:47:35,600
significance of that

2824
01:47:39,830 --> 01:47:38,159
so anyway that's that's my point you're

2825
01:47:42,709 --> 01:47:39,840
absolutely right though

2826
01:47:43,910 --> 01:47:42,719
it was a great night uh for ufology it

2827
01:47:46,149 --> 01:47:43,920
was

2828
01:47:48,229 --> 01:47:46,159
you know this is the other thing that 12

2829
01:47:50,950 --> 01:47:48,239
minutes blew by lou

2830
01:47:53,109 --> 01:47:50,960
it blew by i i got to the end i was like

2831
01:47:54,709 --> 01:47:53,119
that's it

2832
01:47:57,910 --> 01:47:54,719
let me let me give you a quick

2833
01:48:00,709 --> 01:47:57,920
calculation about 650 g's okay

2834
01:48:01,669 --> 01:48:00,719
uh which uh i it's hard for people to

2835
01:48:06,629 --> 01:48:01,679
calculate and

2836
01:48:10,750 --> 01:48:06,639
really comprehend a 200 pound person

2837
01:48:14,390 --> 01:48:10,760
experiencing 650 g's would weigh

2838
01:48:17,590 --> 01:48:14,400
130 000 pounds

2839
01:48:20,790 --> 01:48:17,600
okay uh

2840
01:48:23,669 --> 01:48:20,800
that is that is is about uh

2841
01:48:24,310 --> 01:48:23,679
almost twice as much as an m1 tank

2842
01:48:27,669 --> 01:48:24,320
that's two

2843
01:48:31,270 --> 01:48:27,679
m1 tanks stacked on top of each other

2844
01:48:31,990 --> 01:48:31,280
uh that that is the type of of g-forces

2845
01:48:33,510 --> 01:48:32,000
we're talking

2846
01:48:35,030 --> 01:48:33,520
about it would it would turn a human

2847
01:48:38,229 --> 01:48:35,040
being into pudding right

2848
01:48:40,070 --> 01:48:38,239
yes um i i don't disagree with you let's

2849
01:48:41,189 --> 01:48:40,080
let's you know maybe what i can do is as

2850
01:48:43,990 --> 01:48:41,199
we move forward

2851
01:48:45,270 --> 01:48:44,000
um as i if you know as i do more media

2852
01:48:46,950 --> 01:48:45,280
engagement maybe i can

2853
01:48:48,070 --> 01:48:46,960
do a little encouragement to say look

2854
01:48:49,669 --> 01:48:48,080
you know maybe we want to bring a

2855
01:48:51,910 --> 01:48:49,679
scientific expert to

2856
01:48:52,790 --> 01:48:51,920
explain what these observations really

2857
01:48:56,229 --> 01:48:52,800
mean in

2858
01:48:59,109 --> 01:48:56,239
in you know in in normal normal language

2859
01:49:00,310 --> 01:48:59,119
yeah somebody would understand pudding

2860
01:49:01,669 --> 01:49:00,320
yes

2861
01:49:03,510 --> 01:49:01,679
right they would definitely understand

2862
01:49:07,030 --> 01:49:03,520
pudding now um

2863
01:49:09,189 --> 01:49:07,040
uh last week i mean i

2864
01:49:10,470 --> 01:49:09,199
and i saw this live by the way i just

2865
01:49:11,510 --> 01:49:10,480
happened to be at the right place at the

2866
01:49:15,030 --> 01:49:11,520
right time

2867
01:49:17,510 --> 01:49:15,040
uh jam pasaki i think i believe

2868
01:49:19,910 --> 01:49:17,520
for the first time in the history of the

2869
01:49:23,270 --> 01:49:19,920
white house press room

2870
01:49:27,030 --> 01:49:23,280
discussed ufos and i was at a

2871
01:49:28,790 --> 01:49:27,040
i was it truly at a holy crap moment um

2872
01:49:30,790 --> 01:49:28,800
what did you what what went through your

2873
01:49:32,550 --> 01:49:30,800
mind

2874
01:49:33,830 --> 01:49:32,560
oh gosh you know don't ask me that

2875
01:49:36,149 --> 01:49:33,840
question jimmy because i

2876
01:49:37,510 --> 01:49:36,159
you know i i suck at these questions

2877
01:49:38,709 --> 01:49:37,520
because here's the problem i'm gonna

2878
01:49:41,990 --> 01:49:38,719
disappoint you

2879
01:49:44,550 --> 01:49:42,000
for sure um i don't have the luxury to

2880
01:49:46,629 --> 01:49:44,560
sit back and think about

2881
01:49:48,550 --> 01:49:46,639
really what what the people and

2882
01:49:50,550 --> 01:49:48,560
government are saying too much because

2883
01:49:51,830 --> 01:49:50,560
i'm too focused on the 50 meter target

2884
01:49:54,550 --> 01:49:51,840
in front of me

2885
01:49:56,149 --> 01:49:54,560
um i'm not surprised at all because if

2886
01:49:57,270 --> 01:49:56,159
they got the briefings that i know other

2887
01:49:59,030 --> 01:49:57,280
people got then that's the only

2888
01:50:01,990 --> 01:49:59,040
conclusion you can come to

2889
01:50:02,470 --> 01:50:02,000
um i i i you know i guess i've been

2890
01:50:07,270 --> 01:50:02,480
immer

2891
01:50:09,830 --> 01:50:07,280
uh to me it's kind of like a

2892
01:50:10,310 --> 01:50:09,840
a no duh moment right like uh no duh

2893
01:50:13,669 --> 01:50:10,320
you're

2894
01:50:14,629 --> 01:50:13,679
mean that disrespectfully please don't

2895
01:50:15,830 --> 01:50:14,639
don't i don't want anybody in your

2896
01:50:17,589 --> 01:50:15,840
audience to think that i'm being

2897
01:50:20,470 --> 01:50:17,599
disrespectful i'm not i just

2898
01:50:22,229 --> 01:50:20,480
i i've been in this for so long that it

2899
01:50:24,629 --> 01:50:22,239
nothing surprises me like that

2900
01:50:25,990 --> 01:50:24,639
um it's it's because i've had that

2901
01:50:27,510 --> 01:50:26,000
reaction before when i was giving

2902
01:50:29,669 --> 01:50:27,520
briefings to senior leadership

2903
01:50:31,109 --> 01:50:29,679
and they were kind of like wow holy crap

2904
01:50:33,189 --> 01:50:31,119
okay so it's real

2905
01:50:34,629 --> 01:50:33,199
and after several briefings they started

2906
01:50:36,790 --> 01:50:34,639
get acclimated to it

2907
01:50:38,229 --> 01:50:36,800
and it becomes okay yeah it's it's it's

2908
01:50:40,149 --> 01:50:38,239
yeah it's real and we're you know we're

2909
01:50:43,350 --> 01:50:40,159
taking this topic seriously so

2910
01:50:44,950 --> 01:50:43,360
um i i did not have that that um

2911
01:50:46,870 --> 01:50:44,960
you know profound moment of

2912
01:50:49,830 --> 01:50:46,880
self-reflection and say wow

2913
01:50:51,510 --> 01:50:49,840
uh uh they finally said it and this is a

2914
01:50:54,310 --> 01:50:51,520
you know a monumentous event

2915
01:50:55,189 --> 01:50:54,320
um i because i was too focused on what i

2916
01:50:56,629 --> 01:50:55,199
was going to say

2917
01:50:58,229 --> 01:50:56,639
during the next press briefing to help

2918
01:50:59,990 --> 01:50:58,239
the conversation move forward

2919
01:51:02,950 --> 01:51:00,000
who i was going to talk to in washington

2920
01:51:04,870 --> 01:51:02,960
d.c you know what what is the next

2921
01:51:08,470 --> 01:51:04,880
approach when we're dealing with uh

2922
01:51:10,790 --> 01:51:08,480
potentially a a senior official right

2923
01:51:12,550 --> 01:51:10,800
and trying to take this temporary task

2924
01:51:15,189 --> 01:51:12,560
force and create a longer

2925
01:51:16,870 --> 01:51:15,199
more enduring long-term capability

2926
01:51:19,109 --> 01:51:16,880
that's that's where my focus is

2927
01:51:20,709 --> 01:51:19,119
it's it's not on the the and you're

2928
01:51:22,149 --> 01:51:20,719
right there's these are big wins these

2929
01:51:25,030 --> 01:51:22,159
are individual wins

2930
01:51:26,550 --> 01:51:25,040
but i'm i'm i'm more more convinced more

2931
01:51:28,310 --> 01:51:26,560
concerned about winning the war than

2932
01:51:29,350 --> 01:51:28,320
necessarily each individual battle if

2933
01:51:32,229 --> 01:51:29,360
that makes sense

2934
01:51:32,870 --> 01:51:32,239
the uh the reporter i i don't know her

2935
01:51:36,390 --> 01:51:32,880
name

2936
01:51:38,870 --> 01:51:36,400
um but when she first started

2937
01:51:40,870 --> 01:51:38,880
uh she asked the question in two halves

2938
01:51:42,470 --> 01:51:40,880
but when she first brought it up jan

2939
01:51:44,709 --> 01:51:42,480
pasaki

2940
01:51:47,270 --> 01:51:44,719
kind of had a smirk on her face like oh

2941
01:51:50,470 --> 01:51:47,280
okay here we go i gotta discuss this

2942
01:51:51,830 --> 01:51:50,480
but then uh the reporter who was

2943
01:51:54,790 --> 01:51:51,840
persistent

2944
01:51:56,149 --> 01:51:54,800
um and pursued the question this is what

2945
01:51:58,709 --> 01:51:56,159
surprised me

2946
01:52:00,149 --> 01:51:58,719
jan had a prepared statement she had

2947
01:52:04,790 --> 01:52:00,159
notes

2948
01:52:09,030 --> 01:52:04,800
right and and and then she got serious

2949
01:52:12,070 --> 01:52:09,040
and and said some things that uh

2950
01:52:16,470 --> 01:52:12,080
uh were of a very serious nature

2951
01:52:18,229 --> 01:52:16,480
about uaps and she got focused and i was

2952
01:52:21,750 --> 01:52:18,239
i was very proud but i was

2953
01:52:24,790 --> 01:52:21,760
i had to stop and think i don't believe

2954
01:52:26,950 --> 01:52:24,800
in the white house on live television

2955
01:52:29,589 --> 01:52:26,960
this subject has ever been discussed

2956
01:52:31,830 --> 01:52:29,599
before and that's where we are today it

2957
01:52:33,910 --> 01:52:31,840
was it was a pretty cool moment

2958
01:52:35,750 --> 01:52:33,920
well look i've got i've got to give big

2959
01:52:37,189 --> 01:52:35,760
props to to to the media because they've

2960
01:52:39,030 --> 01:52:37,199
been sensitized there's

2961
01:52:40,709 --> 01:52:39,040
there's some real trailblazers out there

2962
01:52:43,430 --> 01:52:40,719
and you know there's some

2963
01:52:45,189 --> 01:52:43,440
some folks out there uh that are are

2964
01:52:46,870 --> 01:52:45,199
from a younger generation

2965
01:52:48,470 --> 01:52:46,880
that are saying to hell with stigma and

2966
01:52:50,070 --> 01:52:48,480
taboo and they've risked a lot and it's

2967
01:52:50,629 --> 01:52:50,080
paid off for them folks like like from

2968
01:52:52,790 --> 01:52:50,639
nbc

2969
01:52:53,910 --> 01:52:52,800
gaddy schwartz i mean this this guy is

2970
01:52:56,629 --> 01:52:53,920
tenacious i mean

2971
01:52:58,470 --> 01:52:56,639
he's man this guy i've seen him ask the

2972
01:53:01,669 --> 01:52:58,480
questions and he is like he's like

2973
01:53:03,030 --> 01:53:01,679
like like john greenwald he is dogged

2974
01:53:05,510 --> 01:53:03,040
and he's asking the right questions to

2975
01:53:08,470 --> 01:53:05,520
the right people um of course you've got

2976
01:53:09,830 --> 01:53:08,480
people on cnn and fox news as well folks

2977
01:53:10,629 --> 01:53:09,840
like sarah carter and tucker but you

2978
01:53:11,910 --> 01:53:10,639
also have

2979
01:53:13,669 --> 01:53:11,920
uh folks on the other side like aaron

2980
01:53:16,629 --> 01:53:13,679
burnett and you have folks

2981
01:53:18,470 --> 01:53:16,639
like uh anderson cooper that are also

2982
01:53:20,629 --> 01:53:18,480
you know asking these questions so

2983
01:53:21,990 --> 01:53:20,639
you know this is this is amazing for me

2984
01:53:25,189 --> 01:53:22,000
because this is truly a

2985
01:53:27,189 --> 01:53:25,199
a non-a partisan issue as it should be

2986
01:53:28,870 --> 01:53:27,199
right people say oh it's only only the

2987
01:53:30,149 --> 01:53:28,880
right side that reports it well that's

2988
01:53:31,430 --> 01:53:30,159
not true the left side is reporting a

2989
01:53:34,229 --> 01:53:31,440
lot of it too abc

2990
01:53:35,430 --> 01:53:34,239
cbs nbc you know i i don't think that's

2991
01:53:37,669 --> 01:53:35,440
fair and i think we need to make sure

2992
01:53:39,189 --> 01:53:37,679
that we inside this this community

2993
01:53:41,189 --> 01:53:39,199
this family that we call whatever

2994
01:53:43,030 --> 01:53:41,199
ufology or whatever people call it

2995
01:53:44,870 --> 01:53:43,040
you know we need to make sure that we we

2996
01:53:45,430 --> 01:53:44,880
encourage the media and we don't we

2997
01:53:50,790 --> 01:53:45,440
don't

2998
01:53:52,310 --> 01:53:50,800
a political issue when i say political i

2999
01:53:55,030 --> 01:53:52,320
mean a partisan issue

3000
01:53:56,550 --> 01:53:55,040
it needs to be a bipartisan issue and it

3001
01:53:58,390 --> 01:53:56,560
must remain that way so

3002
01:53:59,669 --> 01:53:58,400
so i encourage people please keep your

3003
01:54:01,270 --> 01:53:59,679
political views

3004
01:54:03,510 --> 01:54:01,280
to the side when we're having this

3005
01:54:04,310 --> 01:54:03,520
conversation you are entitled to your

3006
01:54:06,709 --> 01:54:04,320
opinions

3007
01:54:07,990 --> 01:54:06,719
but this is a this is a a topic that

3008
01:54:10,310 --> 01:54:08,000
involves every single one

3009
01:54:12,229 --> 01:54:10,320
of us on the planet it involves all of

3010
01:54:13,990 --> 01:54:12,239
us equally and yet differently

3011
01:54:16,149 --> 01:54:14,000
so let's have the respect and rather

3012
01:54:19,430 --> 01:54:16,159
than polarizing this topic like we do

3013
01:54:22,070 --> 01:54:19,440
every single thing that that's out there

3014
01:54:23,830 --> 01:54:22,080
let's let's try to to rise above that

3015
01:54:25,270 --> 01:54:23,840
and try to hold ourselves to a certain

3016
01:54:27,350 --> 01:54:25,280
level of decorum

3017
01:54:28,790 --> 01:54:27,360
and and try to encourage these people in

3018
01:54:30,629 --> 01:54:28,800
the media who are finally

3019
01:54:32,070 --> 01:54:30,639
who have been so sheepish in the past

3020
01:54:33,669 --> 01:54:32,080
that are finally coming out to take a

3021
01:54:36,149 --> 01:54:33,679
little nibble of this

3022
01:54:37,030 --> 01:54:36,159
let's foster that let's let's encourage

3023
01:54:39,830 --> 01:54:37,040
that let's

3024
01:54:41,350 --> 01:54:39,840
let's celebrate that instead of finding

3025
01:54:43,270 --> 01:54:41,360
reasons to be dismissive

3026
01:54:45,350 --> 01:54:43,280
and and critical that's that's my

3027
01:54:45,990 --> 01:54:45,360
suggestion and uh you know my comments

3028
01:54:49,430 --> 01:54:46,000
about

3029
01:54:52,149 --> 01:54:49,440
60 minutes put to the side

3030
01:54:53,910 --> 01:54:52,159
tmz all right i want to talk about tmz

3031
01:54:57,830 --> 01:54:53,920
for a second

3032
01:55:00,709 --> 01:54:57,840
the uh the tmz doesn't play around

3033
01:55:01,510 --> 01:55:00,719
and when they approached uh marco rubio

3034
01:55:05,030 --> 01:55:01,520
i think it was in an

3035
01:55:06,790 --> 01:55:05,040
airport um and and bringing up these

3036
01:55:10,709 --> 01:55:06,800
questions

3037
01:55:14,070 --> 01:55:10,719
the the tmz cat

3038
01:55:16,149 --> 01:55:14,080
didn't want to talk about drones

3039
01:55:18,310 --> 01:55:16,159
he wanted to talk about ufos he wanted

3040
01:55:20,709 --> 01:55:18,320
to talk about aliens and he kept going

3041
01:55:23,030 --> 01:55:20,719
back at marco

3042
01:55:24,390 --> 01:55:23,040
from that angle right not throwing

3043
01:55:27,990 --> 01:55:24,400
softballs

3044
01:55:32,149 --> 01:55:28,000
let's talk about interstellar

3045
01:55:33,109 --> 01:55:32,159
aliens um invading our airspace and

3046
01:55:37,350 --> 01:55:33,119
marco

3047
01:55:40,709 --> 01:55:37,360
mind

3048
01:55:44,390 --> 01:55:40,719
that angle the ufo angle not the uap

3049
01:55:46,629 --> 01:55:44,400
drones china russia

3050
01:55:48,470 --> 01:55:46,639
it could be something else and it's the

3051
01:55:51,430 --> 01:55:48,480
pursuit of tmz

3052
01:55:53,830 --> 01:55:51,440
to get marco to address this i think is

3053
01:55:56,310 --> 01:55:53,840
a commendable approach

3054
01:55:57,030 --> 01:55:56,320
i agree with you 100 and by the way you

3055
01:55:59,750 --> 01:55:57,040
know

3056
01:56:00,790 --> 01:55:59,760
honestly i hope it's not russia or china

3057
01:56:03,990 --> 01:56:00,800
for me that's a

3058
01:56:05,270 --> 01:56:04,000
scarier scenario than much scary

3059
01:56:07,430 --> 01:56:05,280
that's yes you know either

3060
01:56:10,149 --> 01:56:07,440
extraterrestrial or interdimensional or

3061
01:56:11,589 --> 01:56:10,159
you know whatever whatever you know you

3062
01:56:12,229 --> 01:56:11,599
know origin to jury we want to talk

3063
01:56:13,589 --> 01:56:12,239
about

3064
01:56:15,589 --> 01:56:13,599
you know the last thing i would want is

3065
01:56:17,189 --> 01:56:15,599
is russia or china having some sort of

3066
01:56:18,950 --> 01:56:17,199
beyond next generation disruptive

3067
01:56:20,550 --> 01:56:18,960
technology being used against us

3068
01:56:22,629 --> 01:56:20,560
without impunity in our controlled u.s

3069
01:56:24,310 --> 01:56:22,639
airspaces that terrifies me that

3070
01:56:26,149 --> 01:56:24,320
that really does terrify me if at the

3071
01:56:27,990 --> 01:56:26,159
end of the day all we do

3072
01:56:29,669 --> 01:56:28,000
in this uap task force has proved that

3073
01:56:32,950 --> 01:56:29,679
it's not them then

3074
01:56:34,790 --> 01:56:32,960
i i i'm gonna be a lot happier uh

3075
01:56:35,990 --> 01:56:34,800
and i think you know marco rubio

3076
01:56:37,350 --> 01:56:36,000
probably shares that's that same

3077
01:56:38,550 --> 01:56:37,360
philosophy i would never want to speak

3078
01:56:40,629 --> 01:56:38,560
for the good senator

3079
01:56:42,229 --> 01:56:40,639
but you know he's not a dumb cat the guy

3080
01:56:43,830 --> 01:56:42,239
the guy knows what the hell he's doing

3081
01:56:45,270 --> 01:56:43,840
and and you know he ran for president

3082
01:56:45,910 --> 01:56:45,280
whether you like his politics or not as

3083
01:56:48,310 --> 01:56:45,920
a side

3084
01:56:50,550 --> 01:56:48,320
he has decided to champion this cause

3085
01:56:51,430 --> 01:56:50,560
and i applaud him for that he is a hero

3086
01:56:53,910 --> 01:56:51,440
for that look

3087
01:56:55,350 --> 01:56:53,920
i've worked for for plenty of people in

3088
01:56:57,270 --> 01:56:55,360
high places before

3089
01:56:58,790 --> 01:56:57,280
and they've come from all sides of the

3090
01:57:00,870 --> 01:56:58,800
aisle you know

3091
01:57:02,070 --> 01:57:00,880
senator reid was was with the senate

3092
01:57:04,790 --> 01:57:02,080
majority leader

3093
01:57:05,510 --> 01:57:04,800
uh for for the democrats marco rubio is

3094
01:57:08,470 --> 01:57:05,520
is

3095
01:57:10,070 --> 01:57:08,480
the senate armed service committee

3096
01:57:12,310 --> 01:57:10,080
senate like can canadian intelligence

3097
01:57:13,430 --> 01:57:12,320
uh for the republicans but they both

3098
01:57:15,750 --> 01:57:13,440
want the same thing

3099
01:57:17,109 --> 01:57:15,760
i think that this is this is exactly how

3100
01:57:19,189 --> 01:57:17,119
politics should work

3101
01:57:20,950 --> 01:57:19,199
this is what we should be celebrating

3102
01:57:22,629 --> 01:57:20,960
and stop getting all petty into oh that

3103
01:57:23,589 --> 01:57:22,639
person's a democrat or that person's

3104
01:57:26,709 --> 01:57:23,599
republican

3105
01:57:29,910 --> 01:57:26,719
you know this is not a this is not

3106
01:57:32,229 --> 01:57:29,920
a a a political issue this is a

3107
01:57:33,270 --> 01:57:32,239
a an issue that involves all of humanity

3108
01:57:35,030 --> 01:57:33,280
so let's please

3109
01:57:36,470 --> 01:57:35,040
treat it with that level of dignity

3110
01:57:38,070 --> 01:57:36,480
would be my suggestion yeah i couldn't

3111
01:57:38,950 --> 01:57:38,080
agree with you more it's a it's it's not

3112
01:57:42,149 --> 01:57:38,960
a partisan

3113
01:57:43,990 --> 01:57:42,159
issue at all this is an earth issue

3114
01:57:45,189 --> 01:57:44,000
and that's it there isn't another way to

3115
01:57:47,669 --> 01:57:45,199
approach it

3116
01:57:49,270 --> 01:57:47,679
um now i think we cheapen the message

3117
01:57:52,070 --> 01:57:49,280
when we make it a partisan issue

3118
01:57:52,550 --> 01:57:52,080
completely tremendous justice completely

3119
01:57:55,910 --> 01:57:52,560
um

3120
01:57:59,189 --> 01:57:55,920
in 60 seconds before the break

3121
01:58:02,709 --> 01:57:59,199
do you have uh a vibe

3122
01:58:03,030 --> 01:58:02,719
on what president biden is thinking on

3123
01:58:06,310 --> 01:58:03,040
this

3124
01:58:09,589 --> 01:58:06,320
issue you know i would never presume

3125
01:58:10,149 --> 01:58:09,599
to to to answer on behalf of our our

3126
01:58:13,350 --> 01:58:10,159
president

3127
01:58:14,870 --> 01:58:13,360
um he holds the top elected position he

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01:58:15,750 --> 01:58:14,880
represents the will of the american

3129
01:58:18,830 --> 01:58:15,760
people

3130
01:58:19,990 --> 01:58:18,840
and he has a responsibility that is

3131
01:58:23,669 --> 01:58:20,000
profound

3132
01:58:25,990 --> 01:58:23,679
and severe and so out of respect for

3133
01:58:26,950 --> 01:58:26,000
for our president out of respect for the

3134
01:58:28,709 --> 01:58:26,960
position

3135
01:58:30,629 --> 01:58:28,719
i would never presume to speak on his

3136
01:58:32,790 --> 01:58:30,639
behalf um

3137
01:58:34,310 --> 01:58:32,800
that is something that uh probably i

3138
01:58:37,189 --> 01:58:34,320
would leave to the press

3139
01:58:38,470 --> 01:58:37,199
or someone like you to ask him um i i

3140
01:58:40,390 --> 01:58:38,480
would never want to

3141
01:58:41,669 --> 01:58:40,400
to presume to know what the president is

3142
01:58:43,030 --> 01:58:41,679
thinking frankly i wouldn't want to be

3143
01:58:44,310 --> 01:58:43,040
in the president's shoes

3144
01:58:46,550 --> 01:58:44,320
with all the issues that they have to

3145
01:58:48,629 --> 01:58:46,560
handle on a daily basis uh it's an

3146
01:58:49,750 --> 01:58:48,639
impossible job and and and

3147
01:58:50,950 --> 01:58:49,760
you're never going to make everybody

3148
01:58:52,310 --> 01:58:50,960
happy you're always going to make half

3149
01:58:54,950 --> 01:58:52,320
the people that you serve

3150
01:58:56,149 --> 01:58:54,960
really pissed off at you so um you know

3151
01:58:56,790 --> 01:58:56,159
it doesn't matter what side of the aisle

3152
01:58:59,109 --> 01:58:56,800
you're from

3153
01:59:00,070 --> 01:58:59,119
so i'll i'll leave that with with with

3154
01:59:02,390 --> 01:59:00,080
that yeah

3155
01:59:03,350 --> 01:59:02,400
it's just my imagination running wild

3156
01:59:06,149 --> 01:59:03,360
right uh

3157
01:59:07,750 --> 01:59:06,159
could our president be sitting in the

3158
01:59:09,990 --> 01:59:07,760
oval office

3159
01:59:11,669 --> 01:59:10,000
with uh you know the joint chiefs you

3160
01:59:14,830 --> 01:59:11,679
know actually saying hey yeah

3161
01:59:18,149 --> 01:59:14,840
do we have an update on the uap task

3162
01:59:22,070 --> 01:59:19,669
i would hope so but you know he's also

3163
01:59:23,430 --> 01:59:22,080
worried about covet and transnational

3164
01:59:24,229 --> 01:59:23,440
terrorism and nuclear weapons

3165
01:59:26,470 --> 01:59:24,239
proliferation

3166
01:59:27,510 --> 01:59:26,480
and economy and social strife and you

3167
01:59:28,790 --> 01:59:27,520
know all sorts of

3168
01:59:31,350 --> 01:59:28,800
issues that he's got to deal with on a

3169
01:59:33,510 --> 01:59:31,360
daily basis so i you know

3170
01:59:34,709 --> 01:59:33,520
again i i i sure as hell wouldn't want

3171
01:59:36,550 --> 01:59:34,719
that job i

3172
01:59:38,709 --> 01:59:36,560
i can just see you know one of his one

3173
01:59:41,510 --> 01:59:38,719
of his staff uh mr president

3174
01:59:43,430 --> 01:59:41,520
have you seen the video of this uh

3175
01:59:45,350 --> 01:59:43,440
flying pyramid

3176
01:59:47,669 --> 01:59:45,360
have you seen this today it was just

3177
01:59:48,629 --> 01:59:47,679
late let's take our break right here our

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guest tonight

3179
01:59:52,629 --> 01:59:50,560
lou elizando we've got a lot more to

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01:59:53,750 --> 01:59:52,639
discuss we're just getting started

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believe it or not

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this is fade to black i'm your host

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02:00:02,230 --> 01:59:59,199
short break on the game changer network

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oh good lord

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[Laughter]

3292
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uh lou and i are trading pictures uh

3293
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during the break

3294
02:05:04,629 --> 02:05:02,400
embarrassing shots that was you know

3295
02:05:06,390 --> 02:05:04,639
what lou i i don't know man i thought i

3296
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won that one no i'm gonna give that one

3297
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to you

3298
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yeah it's pretty bad that's when i was a

3299
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young agent and uh

3300
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you know you're uh full of uh uh fire

3301
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and uh

3302
02:05:19,750 --> 02:05:17,520
and ignorance you know you know you're

3303
02:05:22,870 --> 02:05:19,760
straight up spot the fed on that one

3304
02:05:26,149 --> 02:05:24,629
you look you were playing the part you

3305
02:05:28,470 --> 02:05:26,159
were playing the part

3306
02:05:29,990 --> 02:05:28,480
yeah i know it's uh it's unfortunately

3307
02:05:31,350 --> 02:05:30,000
it's it's one of those things even even

3308
02:05:33,109 --> 02:05:31,360
the walk it's like you could always tell

3309
02:05:33,990 --> 02:05:33,119
a law enforcement guy because they

3310
02:05:36,229 --> 02:05:34,000
always kind of walk with

3311
02:05:37,990 --> 02:05:36,239
this weird swagger and you don't realize

3312
02:05:39,990 --> 02:05:38,000
because they're so used to carrying a

3313
02:05:41,350 --> 02:05:40,000
firearm on their hip that they always

3314
02:05:43,270 --> 02:05:41,360
walk with one arm kind of

3315
02:05:45,109 --> 02:05:43,280
just out just a little bit and you know

3316
02:05:47,109 --> 02:05:45,119
that that never goes away

3317
02:05:48,390 --> 02:05:47,119
so you can always like oh you're you're

3318
02:05:48,790 --> 02:05:48,400
a law enforcement like hey how'd you

3319
02:05:54,950 --> 02:05:48,800
know

3320
02:05:56,629 --> 02:05:54,960
i was uh i i can't disclose a whole lot

3321
02:05:58,390 --> 02:05:56,639
here but let's just say that i was in

3322
02:06:01,030 --> 02:05:58,400
the presence of

3323
02:06:02,709 --> 02:06:01,040
a motorcade okay all right that's all

3324
02:06:06,709 --> 02:06:02,719
i'm gonna say but anyway

3325
02:06:09,430 --> 02:06:06,719
um female uh agent

3326
02:06:11,669 --> 02:06:09,440
she's standing in front of me and uh and

3327
02:06:13,669 --> 02:06:11,679
she pulls apart her blazer and

3328
02:06:15,510 --> 02:06:13,679
put her hands on her hips and dude she

3329
02:06:18,790 --> 02:06:15,520
had two

3330
02:06:19,750 --> 02:06:18,800
ivory handled like six shooters like

3331
02:06:23,990 --> 02:06:19,760
clint eastwood

3332
02:06:26,870 --> 02:06:24,000
why not eat you sick i was like right

3333
02:06:27,750 --> 02:06:26,880
odd she gave me this grin and i was like

3334
02:06:30,390 --> 02:06:27,760
holy crap

3335
02:06:31,030 --> 02:06:30,400
you know blazer down jimmy truth be told

3336
02:06:35,589 --> 02:06:31,040
my

3337
02:06:38,709 --> 02:06:35,599
time and obviously i carried a fire um

3338
02:06:41,030 --> 02:06:38,719
uh a lot and i'll make this

3339
02:06:41,910 --> 02:06:41,040
i'll admit right now um right on your

3340
02:06:45,189 --> 02:06:41,920
radio now i've

3341
02:06:46,229 --> 02:06:45,199
never done this publicly my my wife is a

3342
02:06:48,470 --> 02:06:46,239
better shot than i am

3343
02:06:50,390 --> 02:06:48,480
and i don't mean by a little i mean like

3344
02:06:52,870 --> 02:06:50,400
a lot jennifer

3345
02:06:53,669 --> 02:06:52,880
she yes someone comes breaking into my

3346
02:06:56,069 --> 02:06:53,679
house

3347
02:06:57,430 --> 02:06:56,079
i'll make all the noise and and scare

3348
02:06:58,950 --> 02:06:57,440
the person but it's probably going to be

3349
02:07:00,629 --> 02:06:58,960
jennifer that's going to

3350
02:07:02,069 --> 02:07:00,639
take that that shot that's going to

3351
02:07:04,870 --> 02:07:02,079
going to going to you know and

3352
02:07:05,589 --> 02:07:04,880
and the end the situation she's uh she's

3353
02:07:07,430 --> 02:07:05,599
an absolute

3354
02:07:09,589 --> 02:07:07,440
dead and the fact that she's eastern

3355
02:07:11,109 --> 02:07:09,599
european you know people tell me oh you

3356
02:07:12,629 --> 02:07:11,119
guys are latin you guys are hot-blooded

3357
02:07:16,229 --> 02:07:12,639
and you guys got a temper

3358
02:07:19,189 --> 02:07:16,239
brother you ain't never seen a temper

3359
02:07:20,149 --> 02:07:19,199
like uh someone fro from uh and i love

3360
02:07:23,270 --> 02:07:20,159
her to death but

3361
02:07:26,229 --> 02:07:23,280
man compared to us latinos man

3362
02:07:26,790 --> 02:07:26,239
she is on fire sometimes i will just say

3363
02:07:28,629 --> 02:07:26,800
that i don't

3364
02:07:31,589 --> 02:07:28,639
ever piss her off i'm going to say this

3365
02:07:34,629 --> 02:07:31,599
filed and duly noted

3366
02:07:37,109 --> 02:07:34,639
okay i made sure uh you know 20

3367
02:07:38,629 --> 02:07:37,119
28 years of being successfully uh

3368
02:07:41,669 --> 02:07:38,639
married and together

3369
02:07:44,950 --> 02:07:41,679
i've learned a long long time ago do not

3370
02:07:47,109 --> 02:07:44,960
uh upset mrs elizondo for sure

3371
02:07:49,270 --> 02:07:47,119
now uh let's talk about that for a

3372
02:07:50,310 --> 02:07:49,280
second um i want to talk about danny

3373
02:07:54,229 --> 02:07:50,320
sheehan

3374
02:07:57,430 --> 02:07:54,239
um and to that end

3375
02:08:00,470 --> 02:07:57,440
you're going down this road and

3376
02:08:03,430 --> 02:08:00,480
everybody sees your face

3377
02:08:04,629 --> 02:08:03,440
but you have a family right you have a

3378
02:08:06,550 --> 02:08:04,639
family there there's

3379
02:08:09,910 --> 02:08:06,560
other things that you need to be

3380
02:08:12,790 --> 02:08:09,920
responsible for as you go down this road

3381
02:08:14,870 --> 02:08:12,800
fighting the good fight um how's your

3382
02:08:19,030 --> 02:08:14,880
family doing with all of this

3383
02:08:21,510 --> 02:08:19,040
and and what are the concerns

3384
02:08:23,430 --> 02:08:21,520
jimmy i'm i'm i'm a blessed human being

3385
02:08:25,990 --> 02:08:23,440
um i i have the greatest

3386
02:08:27,189 --> 02:08:26,000
family in in the world i have two

3387
02:08:28,629 --> 02:08:27,199
daughters which are the greatest

3388
02:08:30,629 --> 02:08:28,639
accomplishment of my life

3389
02:08:32,390 --> 02:08:30,639
um they're the most fantastic human

3390
02:08:35,510 --> 02:08:32,400
beings they're kind

3391
02:08:37,750 --> 02:08:35,520
they're smart they're funny uh

3392
02:08:39,189 --> 02:08:37,760
and and they're just they're just you

3393
02:08:40,950 --> 02:08:39,199
know there's an old saying that

3394
02:08:42,390 --> 02:08:40,960
the sum can never be greater than its

3395
02:08:43,990 --> 02:08:42,400
constituent parts

3396
02:08:45,750 --> 02:08:44,000
well those people have never had

3397
02:08:47,510 --> 02:08:45,760
children before because your children

3398
02:08:49,669 --> 02:08:47,520
are every bit greater than

3399
02:08:50,870 --> 02:08:49,679
than than both of you combined they're

3400
02:08:53,430 --> 02:08:50,880
they're incredible

3401
02:08:54,550 --> 02:08:53,440
my wife we've lived in in third world

3402
02:08:58,709 --> 02:08:54,560
countries

3403
02:09:01,990 --> 02:08:58,719
i was uh put on a bad boy list

3404
02:09:03,510 --> 02:09:02,000
uh because of my work uh unrelated to a

3405
02:09:05,750 --> 02:09:03,520
tip but the other work i won't go into

3406
02:09:09,030 --> 02:09:05,760
details put on a bad boy list

3407
02:09:10,629 --> 02:09:09,040
uh back in around 2014 and it's been

3408
02:09:13,030 --> 02:09:10,639
very tough you know i dragged my

3409
02:09:14,229 --> 02:09:13,040
my wife all over the world um and in

3410
02:09:16,069 --> 02:09:14,239
some not some very

3411
02:09:17,990 --> 02:09:16,079
not very good situations and

3412
02:09:20,470 --> 02:09:18,000
circumstances um

3413
02:09:21,830 --> 02:09:20,480
and she stayed with me and you know this

3414
02:09:24,790 --> 02:09:21,840
this

3415
02:09:26,550 --> 02:09:24,800
challenging because i've been a creature

3416
02:09:28,069 --> 02:09:26,560
in the shadows for so long in fact

3417
02:09:29,910 --> 02:09:28,079
you know in some cases your safety and

3418
02:09:32,069 --> 02:09:29,920
survival depends on that

3419
02:09:33,350 --> 02:09:32,079
and and you know you have this code

3420
02:09:35,669 --> 02:09:33,360
within the family that

3421
02:09:37,030 --> 02:09:35,679
that you're always going to protect them

3422
02:09:39,910 --> 02:09:37,040
and when you step out

3423
02:09:40,709 --> 02:09:39,920
into the spotlight um you know all that

3424
02:09:42,870 --> 02:09:40,719
changes

3425
02:09:44,870 --> 02:09:42,880
because you you no longer can promise

3426
02:09:47,109 --> 02:09:44,880
them the safety and security that

3427
02:09:49,910 --> 02:09:47,119
that that you swore to to always provide

3428
02:09:53,030 --> 02:09:49,920
for them before you're in the shadows

3429
02:09:54,629 --> 02:09:53,040
now you're not you're complete

3430
02:09:56,390 --> 02:09:54,639
it's the opposite you're out of the

3431
02:09:57,990 --> 02:09:56,400
shadows it is the opposite and i don't

3432
02:09:58,470 --> 02:09:58,000
have the protection of the shadows and

3433
02:10:01,510 --> 02:09:58,480
so

3434
02:10:02,550 --> 02:10:01,520
right uh you know all my history doing

3435
02:10:05,589 --> 02:10:02,560
what i did for

3436
02:10:07,990 --> 02:10:05,599
for this country uh is is is now

3437
02:10:08,950 --> 02:10:08,000
out in the open my my real name been on

3438
02:10:11,990 --> 02:10:08,960
my job what

3439
02:10:13,510 --> 02:10:12,000
what i did and uh it's tough and you

3440
02:10:15,430 --> 02:10:13,520
know there's a lot of people that that

3441
02:10:17,430 --> 02:10:15,440
aren't a big fan of of

3442
02:10:19,510 --> 02:10:17,440
of luis elizondo and i don't mean just

3443
02:10:21,669 --> 02:10:19,520
uaps i mean some pretty bad

3444
02:10:22,629 --> 02:10:21,679
bad bad dudes out there that really

3445
02:10:24,790 --> 02:10:22,639
really

3446
02:10:25,990 --> 02:10:24,800
you know don't don't don't like me and

3447
02:10:29,589 --> 02:10:26,000
have memories

3448
02:10:32,229 --> 02:10:29,599
guns so yes

3449
02:10:34,390 --> 02:10:32,239
yes yes that that for me has been very

3450
02:10:35,750 --> 02:10:34,400
tough and i always worry about my family

3451
02:10:37,910 --> 02:10:35,760
that's why i live in the middle of

3452
02:10:40,950 --> 02:10:37,920
nowhere wyoming um

3453
02:10:43,830 --> 02:10:40,960
you know i i tried to do my best to be

3454
02:10:44,390 --> 02:10:43,840
to be uh you know a loving protecting

3455
02:10:47,510 --> 02:10:44,400
father

3456
02:10:49,109 --> 02:10:47,520
and a and a gracious husband um

3457
02:10:51,430 --> 02:10:49,119
you know my family have had to endure

3458
02:10:53,669 --> 02:10:51,440
every time i think that i have a bad

3459
02:10:54,709 --> 02:10:53,679
i look to my family and i realize

3460
02:10:56,550 --> 02:10:54,719
they've had to endure

3461
02:10:57,910 --> 02:10:56,560
much worse because they have to see dad

3462
02:10:59,510 --> 02:10:57,920
catching the arrows

3463
02:11:01,189 --> 02:10:59,520
you know they have to see dad's

3464
02:11:03,109 --> 02:11:01,199
credibility being impugned

3465
02:11:04,550 --> 02:11:03,119
uh and and they've known what i've done

3466
02:11:05,350 --> 02:11:04,560
you know they lived with me for their

3467
02:11:07,350 --> 02:11:05,360
whole life so

3468
02:11:08,629 --> 02:11:07,360
so you know they they know the people

3469
02:11:10,149 --> 02:11:08,639
that used to come to my house and the

3470
02:11:12,310 --> 02:11:10,159
meetings we used to have and

3471
02:11:14,709 --> 02:11:12,320
and you know it's my my wife has said a

3472
02:11:17,270 --> 02:11:14,719
few times you know she said why

3473
02:11:18,950 --> 02:11:17,280
why are you doing this they they don't

3474
02:11:20,229 --> 02:11:18,960
they won't appreciate it they won't they

3475
02:11:23,270 --> 02:11:20,239
won't get it

3476
02:11:24,790 --> 02:11:23,280
and um you know it's uh

3477
02:11:26,470 --> 02:11:24,800
sometimes you know i think maybe she's

3478
02:11:29,270 --> 02:11:26,480
right i i

3479
02:11:30,709 --> 02:11:29,280
you know i i don't know i do it because

3480
02:11:32,550 --> 02:11:30,719
because that's what i'm supposed to do

3481
02:11:35,030 --> 02:11:32,560
and yet she stays with me

3482
02:11:36,950 --> 02:11:35,040
and and she she still supports me and

3483
02:11:38,390 --> 02:11:36,960
she supports my decisions and

3484
02:11:40,390 --> 02:11:38,400
she's actually part of this effort as

3485
02:11:42,310 --> 02:11:40,400
you know she she because i i'm i'm

3486
02:11:43,589 --> 02:11:42,320
terrible i'm a man i'm limited so she

3487
02:11:45,189 --> 02:11:43,599
she coordinates everything for me

3488
02:11:45,830 --> 02:11:45,199
because i've got the memory of a you

3489
02:11:48,950 --> 02:11:45,840
know

3490
02:11:51,109 --> 02:11:48,960
of a nat so she uh she

3491
02:11:52,790 --> 02:11:51,119
she takes care of a lot of the

3492
02:11:54,229 --> 02:11:52,800
coordination and logistics

3493
02:11:55,750 --> 02:11:54,239
so i can do what i'm doing here what

3494
02:11:57,109 --> 02:11:55,760
people don't realize is that every time

3495
02:11:58,870 --> 02:11:57,119
i come on one of these shows

3496
02:12:01,270 --> 02:11:58,880
or i'm doing something i'm not getting

3497
02:12:03,350 --> 02:12:01,280
paid i'm actually having to take away

3498
02:12:04,310 --> 02:12:03,360
time from my real job that i use to pay

3499
02:12:06,790 --> 02:12:04,320
the mortgage

3500
02:12:08,629 --> 02:12:06,800
and and put my kids through school and

3501
02:12:09,589 --> 02:12:08,639
and i i'm losing money i'm actually

3502
02:12:12,709 --> 02:12:09,599
having to pay

3503
02:12:15,510 --> 02:12:12,719
i'm losing income to do these things and

3504
02:12:16,709 --> 02:12:15,520
i do it because i believe in it i do it

3505
02:12:17,270 --> 02:12:16,719
because i think we're making a

3506
02:12:18,870 --> 02:12:17,280
difference

3507
02:12:20,790 --> 02:12:18,880
and i do it because my wife and my

3508
02:12:22,629 --> 02:12:20,800
children support me um

3509
02:12:23,990 --> 02:12:22,639
you know the moment that mrs elizondo or

3510
02:12:24,709 --> 02:12:24,000
my children say dad don't do this

3511
02:12:26,709 --> 02:12:24,719
anymore

3512
02:12:27,910 --> 02:12:26,719
i'm gone i'm a ghost i'm gonna get weird

3513
02:12:28,870 --> 02:12:27,920
and disappear and you'll never hear from

3514
02:12:30,790 --> 02:12:28,880
lou again

3515
02:12:32,069 --> 02:12:30,800
so if there's anybody to thank for for

3516
02:12:34,550 --> 02:12:32,079
what's going on

3517
02:12:36,310 --> 02:12:34,560
it's it's really mrs elizondo and and

3518
02:12:38,390 --> 02:12:36,320
and the kids they are the ones they are

3519
02:12:39,109 --> 02:12:38,400
my fire the people that i engage every

3520
02:12:42,149 --> 02:12:39,119
day

3521
02:12:44,069 --> 02:12:42,159
are also my fire but but but

3522
02:12:45,430 --> 02:12:44,079
they're the reasons why i can get up in

3523
02:12:48,390 --> 02:12:45,440
the morning and do what i do

3524
02:12:51,109 --> 02:12:48,400
because they support me and and you know

3525
02:12:52,790 --> 02:12:51,119
i left a very very high paying career

3526
02:12:54,470 --> 02:12:52,800
with with tremendous amount of

3527
02:12:55,990 --> 02:12:54,480
accoutrements i i parked in the

3528
02:12:57,510 --> 02:12:56,000
secretary's parking lot

3529
02:12:58,709 --> 02:12:57,520
you know i knew everybody by first name

3530
02:13:00,149 --> 02:12:58,719
i walk into the building i'm getting

3531
02:13:03,030 --> 02:13:00,159
saluted by everybody

3532
02:13:04,310 --> 02:13:03,040
um i left that all behind to to have

3533
02:13:05,830 --> 02:13:04,320
this conversation with you

3534
02:13:07,910 --> 02:13:05,840
to have it with your audience and the

3535
02:13:09,589 --> 02:13:07,920
american people and it hasn't been very

3536
02:13:11,510 --> 02:13:09,599
easy always you know people assume that

3537
02:13:14,470 --> 02:13:11,520
oh you're the guy in the spotlight and

3538
02:13:16,310 --> 02:13:14,480
and you know but i'm not a spotlight guy

3539
02:13:17,750 --> 02:13:16,320
i never have been i i'm

3540
02:13:19,270 --> 02:13:17,760
you know i'm introverted i don't go to

3541
02:13:20,229 --> 02:13:19,280
bars and hang out with the bros i don't

3542
02:13:22,229 --> 02:13:20,239
play basketball

3543
02:13:23,270 --> 02:13:22,239
you know on weekends i sit at home and i

3544
02:13:26,390 --> 02:13:23,280
and i do patents

3545
02:13:29,750 --> 02:13:26,400
you know i'm i i'm not i'm not

3546
02:13:32,870 --> 02:13:29,760
you know i force myself to be to be

3547
02:13:34,629 --> 02:13:32,880
more extroverted and more engaging uh in

3548
02:13:37,189 --> 02:13:34,639
in in with the media because you have to

3549
02:13:39,589 --> 02:13:37,199
be but that's not my normal personality

3550
02:13:41,270 --> 02:13:39,599
and and i dedicate 18 hours a day to

3551
02:13:44,629 --> 02:13:41,280
this i'm probably sleeping

3552
02:13:46,390 --> 02:13:44,639
four to five hours a night um and it's

3553
02:13:48,390 --> 02:13:46,400
you know it takes a toll it takes a toll

3554
02:13:49,910 --> 02:13:48,400
on your health i'm i'm definitely not as

3555
02:13:51,510 --> 02:13:49,920
healthy as i used to be

3556
02:13:53,189 --> 02:13:51,520
i'm not taking care of myself like i

3557
02:13:54,149 --> 02:13:53,199
should be because i simply don't have

3558
02:13:55,910 --> 02:13:54,159
the time

3559
02:13:57,510 --> 02:13:55,920
because i'm really committed to this to

3560
02:13:57,990 --> 02:13:57,520
this topic and i'm not asking people to

3561
02:14:00,069 --> 02:13:58,000
feel sorry

3562
02:14:01,030 --> 02:14:00,079
for me or say oh poor lou that's not

3563
02:14:02,550 --> 02:14:01,040
what i'm saying

3564
02:14:04,229 --> 02:14:02,560
but you're asking me an honest question

3565
02:14:06,470 --> 02:14:04,239
how has it been on the family

3566
02:14:08,870 --> 02:14:06,480
and you know i think the greatest stress

3567
02:14:10,790 --> 02:14:08,880
for them is to see the stress on me

3568
02:14:11,910 --> 02:14:10,800
you know my wife is worried that one day

3569
02:14:13,109 --> 02:14:11,920
i'm going to have a heart attack and

3570
02:14:16,310 --> 02:14:13,119
just keel over

3571
02:14:17,189 --> 02:14:16,320
well and so much so uh lou let me jump

3572
02:14:20,390 --> 02:14:17,199
in though

3573
02:14:23,669 --> 02:14:20,400
i think the point needs to be made that

3574
02:14:25,350 --> 02:14:23,679
your family is is seeing uh these

3575
02:14:28,229 --> 02:14:25,360
statements come out of of

3576
02:14:28,870 --> 02:14:28,239
of the pentagon uh that are supposed to

3577
02:14:31,990 --> 02:14:28,880
be of

3578
02:14:35,350 --> 02:14:32,000
an official nature and

3579
02:14:38,390 --> 02:14:35,360
it it got so bad that you have to go and

3580
02:14:41,750 --> 02:14:38,400
and hire uh danny sheehan

3581
02:14:43,910 --> 02:14:41,760
and turn around and and file

3582
02:14:45,189 --> 02:14:43,920
i don't know how many pages i've read

3583
02:14:49,030 --> 02:14:45,199
i've i've heard it's

3584
02:14:52,229 --> 02:14:49,040
like 60 plus pages right there's a lot

3585
02:14:54,950 --> 02:14:52,239
right uh uh with the ig

3586
02:14:56,310 --> 02:14:54,960
and you have to go and and defend your

3587
02:14:59,510 --> 02:14:56,320
position

3588
02:15:02,069 --> 02:14:59,520
why did it have to come to that

3589
02:15:02,550 --> 02:15:02,079
i i don't know jimmy i i wish it didn't

3590
02:15:04,310 --> 02:15:02,560
you know

3591
02:15:05,669 --> 02:15:04,320
this is this is the sadness that i keep

3592
02:15:08,229 --> 02:15:05,679
in my heart because

3593
02:15:09,430 --> 02:15:08,239
you know ultimately my loyalty is to the

3594
02:15:12,310 --> 02:15:09,440
department of defense

3595
02:15:14,310 --> 02:15:12,320
you know i was i was a lot of people

3596
02:15:17,750 --> 02:15:14,320
much better than me gave their lives

3597
02:15:19,669 --> 02:15:17,760
for for that organization and um

3598
02:15:20,950 --> 02:15:19,679
that wasn't the organization that that i

3599
02:15:22,870 --> 02:15:20,960
remember it being

3600
02:15:24,550 --> 02:15:22,880
um and it's certainly not the

3601
02:15:25,030 --> 02:15:24,560
organization that that people that are

3602
02:15:28,310 --> 02:15:25,040
still

3603
02:15:31,910 --> 02:15:28,320
there um should should have to deal with

3604
02:15:33,270 --> 02:15:31,920
um you know we've also seen yeah we've

3605
02:15:36,950 --> 02:15:33,280
all seen this movie

3606
02:15:40,390 --> 02:15:36,960
right we've seen this script where

3607
02:15:43,830 --> 02:15:40,400
uh the

3608
02:15:45,189 --> 02:15:43,840
the military or or washington dc is

3609
02:15:47,510 --> 02:15:45,199
gonna turn around and attack the

3610
02:15:49,830 --> 02:15:47,520
credibility of an individual

3611
02:15:51,350 --> 02:15:49,840
because that's the only way that they

3612
02:15:53,430 --> 02:15:51,360
can deal with it

3613
02:15:54,870 --> 02:15:53,440
and it's like a hollywood thing in the

3614
02:15:55,990 --> 02:15:54,880
book right first they try to ignore you

3615
02:15:57,030 --> 02:15:56,000
and then when they can't ignore you they

3616
02:15:58,870 --> 02:15:57,040
try to discredit you

3617
02:16:00,390 --> 02:15:58,880
right and then when they can't do that

3618
02:16:01,910 --> 02:16:00,400
then you know

3619
02:16:03,910 --> 02:16:01,920
hopefully hopefully something more

3620
02:16:05,669 --> 02:16:03,920
severe doesn't happen but you know

3621
02:16:06,149 --> 02:16:05,679
that's that's that seems to be the name

3622
02:16:09,030 --> 02:16:06,159
of the game

3623
02:16:11,109 --> 02:16:09,040
unfortunately well um uh just like john

3624
02:16:13,910 --> 02:16:11,119
greenwald and i've made this comment

3625
02:16:16,069 --> 02:16:13,920
so many times on the air um and i've

3626
02:16:18,629 --> 02:16:16,079
said this to danny directly

3627
02:16:20,470 --> 02:16:18,639
um by the way i've called danny

3628
02:16:21,189 --> 02:16:20,480
privately when i've had some legal

3629
02:16:24,870 --> 02:16:21,199
issues

3630
02:16:27,750 --> 02:16:24,880
that's who i call right that and uh

3631
02:16:29,030 --> 02:16:27,760
but but he's amazing i mean he's a he's

3632
02:16:31,109 --> 02:16:29,040
probably one of the one of the

3633
02:16:33,270 --> 02:16:31,119
greatest constitutional harvard-trained

3634
02:16:35,589 --> 02:16:33,280
attorneys this country's ever seen and

3635
02:16:36,629 --> 02:16:35,599
by the way let me just say a a couple

3636
02:16:39,030 --> 02:16:36,639
landmark uh

3637
02:16:39,910 --> 02:16:39,040
cases and and see if it resonates uh

3638
02:16:43,270 --> 02:16:39,920
watergate

3639
02:16:46,469 --> 02:16:43,280
uh pentagon papers uh oliver north

3640
02:16:49,190 --> 02:16:46,479
uh silkwood right these are all

3641
02:16:49,669 --> 02:16:49,200
huge cases that have one thing in common

3642
02:16:52,790 --> 02:16:49,679
and that's

3643
02:16:53,669 --> 02:16:52,800
that's you know danny sheehan so you

3644
02:16:56,950 --> 02:16:53,679
know if you

3645
02:16:57,990 --> 02:16:56,960
want you want a an absolute tiger on

3646
02:17:01,190 --> 02:16:58,000
your side

3647
02:17:02,549 --> 02:17:01,200
uh that's the guy you know that's that's

3648
02:17:05,830 --> 02:17:02,559
that's why he's he's

3649
02:17:08,629 --> 02:17:05,840
he's on my team um

3650
02:17:11,429 --> 02:17:08,639
what's uh what's the latest uh that you

3651
02:17:13,589 --> 02:17:11,439
can talk about with this

3652
02:17:15,429 --> 02:17:13,599
well uh you know he's not here to advise

3653
02:17:17,030 --> 02:17:15,439
me right now i'm very cautious not to

3654
02:17:20,230 --> 02:17:17,040
ever speak out of out of uh

3655
02:17:22,549 --> 02:17:20,240
church when uh no pun intended when uh

3656
02:17:24,469 --> 02:17:22,559
when he's when he's not around here on

3657
02:17:26,230 --> 02:17:24,479
legal concerns so i won't discuss about

3658
02:17:28,629 --> 02:17:26,240
our legal strategy

3659
02:17:29,669 --> 02:17:28,639
but what i will discuss is that uh he is

3660
02:17:32,629 --> 02:17:29,679
extremely confident

3661
02:17:34,629 --> 02:17:32,639
he has obviously had access to uh the

3662
02:17:37,910 --> 02:17:34,639
information that the ig has

3663
02:17:40,469 --> 02:17:37,920
and um you know uh sees this very

3664
02:17:41,429 --> 02:17:40,479
clear cut uh he sees this at the same

3665
02:17:43,349 --> 02:17:41,439
level if

3666
02:17:45,190 --> 02:17:43,359
well i don't want to speak for him but

3667
02:17:48,389 --> 02:17:45,200
he his sense of commitment

3668
02:17:52,389 --> 02:17:48,399
on this is unwavering um he is incensed

3669
02:17:54,309 --> 02:17:52,399
by by the government's um retaliation

3670
02:17:56,309 --> 02:17:54,319
and their statements and their lack of

3671
02:17:57,589 --> 02:17:56,319
transparency and forthcomingness with

3672
02:18:00,790 --> 02:17:57,599
the american people

3673
02:18:04,230 --> 02:18:00,800
he's disgusted by their decorum uh and

3674
02:18:06,309 --> 02:18:04,240
uh you know he he he doesn't

3675
02:18:08,549 --> 02:18:06,319
uh he doesn't he doesn't want us to

3676
02:18:09,830 --> 02:18:08,559
tolerate it and you know i kind of agree

3677
02:18:11,509 --> 02:18:09,840
with him uh

3678
02:18:13,750 --> 02:18:11,519
you know of course i feel like the the

3679
02:18:15,750 --> 02:18:13,760
battering ram that's being used to

3680
02:18:17,429 --> 02:18:15,760
break the doors down which is right

3681
02:18:18,629 --> 02:18:17,439
never very comfortable for the for the

3682
02:18:19,349 --> 02:18:18,639
for the guy at the very end of the

3683
02:18:21,270 --> 02:18:19,359
battering ram

3684
02:18:22,629 --> 02:18:21,280
you know hitting the door you know face

3685
02:18:23,750 --> 02:18:22,639
first uh

3686
02:18:24,870 --> 02:18:23,760
but you know if that's what we need to

3687
02:18:25,750 --> 02:18:24,880
do that's what we need to do and i'm

3688
02:18:29,349 --> 02:18:25,760
prepared to do it

3689
02:18:31,910 --> 02:18:29,359
now uh when the announcement came on uh

3690
02:18:32,469 --> 02:18:31,920
i think it was may 3rd uh from the ig's

3691
02:18:36,309 --> 02:18:32,479
office

3692
02:18:39,589 --> 02:18:36,319
and on their web page very brief

3693
02:18:40,389 --> 02:18:39,599
uh paragraph that was there but was

3694
02:18:42,870 --> 02:18:40,399
deliberate

3695
02:18:43,830 --> 02:18:42,880
broad and pretty compelling and

3696
02:18:47,509 --> 02:18:43,840
comprehensive

3697
02:18:51,110 --> 02:18:47,519
in in with just one paragraph

3698
02:18:55,429 --> 02:18:51,120
um the deliberate nature

3699
02:18:58,629 --> 02:18:55,439
of how the ig stated this investigation

3700
02:19:01,910 --> 02:18:58,639
mentioning uaps and in this and how

3701
02:19:03,190 --> 02:19:01,920
all of the agencies have acted on this

3702
02:19:06,709 --> 02:19:03,200
subject

3703
02:19:08,070 --> 02:19:06,719
that was pretty shocking but well yeah

3704
02:19:09,190 --> 02:19:08,080
that's pretty much of an indictment by

3705
02:19:10,790 --> 02:19:09,200
itself isn't it right

3706
02:19:13,190 --> 02:19:10,800
right right we are specifically

3707
02:19:13,910 --> 02:19:13,200
evaluating the way in which you handle

3708
02:19:16,790 --> 02:19:13,920
this

3709
02:19:17,589 --> 02:19:16,800
and that's that's pretty pretty pointed

3710
02:19:20,549 --> 02:19:17,599
and

3711
02:19:21,910 --> 02:19:20,559
that statement from the ig was because

3712
02:19:24,950 --> 02:19:21,920
of the complaint

3713
02:19:27,110 --> 02:19:24,960
that you and danny sheehan had filed

3714
02:19:28,950 --> 02:19:27,120
am i understanding this correctly i am

3715
02:19:32,070 --> 02:19:28,960
not going to comment on

3716
02:19:34,709 --> 02:19:32,080
on what predicated the dod's

3717
02:19:35,990 --> 02:19:34,719
evaluation that is that is within their

3718
02:19:39,190 --> 02:19:36,000
purview to do so

3719
02:19:41,110 --> 02:19:39,200
um and uh whether or not

3720
02:19:43,190 --> 02:19:41,120
my complaint had anything to do with it

3721
02:19:44,230 --> 02:19:43,200
or or the rumor of my complaint having

3722
02:19:45,910 --> 02:19:44,240
anything to do with it

3723
02:19:48,950 --> 02:19:45,920
is something that i can't substantiate

3724
02:19:49,750 --> 02:19:48,960
and i won't uh but what i will say is

3725
02:19:52,469 --> 02:19:49,760
that

3726
02:19:54,630 --> 02:19:52,479
um there are elements within the the dod

3727
02:19:57,110 --> 02:19:54,640
ig that are definitely interested to

3728
02:19:57,750 --> 02:19:57,120
to hear what i have to say now that's

3729
02:20:00,790 --> 02:19:57,760
true

3730
02:20:02,870 --> 02:20:00,800
and as uh are you going to

3731
02:20:04,830 --> 02:20:02,880
i've got two questions uh directly on

3732
02:20:07,830 --> 02:20:04,840
this are you

3733
02:20:11,590 --> 02:20:07,840
anticipating sitting down

3734
02:20:13,830 --> 02:20:11,600
with the ig with daddy sheehan

3735
02:20:16,469 --> 02:20:13,840
and having a conversation is there

3736
02:20:20,469 --> 02:20:16,479
something on the calendar

3737
02:20:23,750 --> 02:20:20,479
yes perfect i love that

3738
02:20:27,110 --> 02:20:23,760
the next part uh

3739
02:20:27,670 --> 02:20:27,120
with that is we mentioned the emails

3740
02:20:30,950 --> 02:20:27,680
earlier

3741
02:20:33,830 --> 02:20:30,960
as the ig starts to reach out to

3742
02:20:34,469 --> 02:20:33,840
all of these different agencies i think

3743
02:20:37,510 --> 02:20:34,479
wasn't it

3744
02:20:40,309 --> 02:20:37,520
gs gs15

3745
02:20:42,710 --> 02:20:40,319
what was uh you know the civilian

3746
02:20:46,550 --> 02:20:42,720
equivalent of a captain or colonel

3747
02:20:49,830 --> 02:20:46,560
so they only want to talk to uh

3748
02:20:53,750 --> 02:20:49,840
the heads of these departments right

3749
02:20:54,950 --> 02:20:53,760
correct if the ig now gets a response

3750
02:20:57,670 --> 02:20:54,960
back

3751
02:20:58,230 --> 02:20:57,680
that some of the communications that we

3752
02:21:01,590 --> 02:20:58,240
need

3753
02:21:02,309 --> 02:21:01,600
are not available because these files

3754
02:21:07,110 --> 02:21:02,319
have been

3755
02:21:09,910 --> 02:21:07,120
deleted what is the reaction from the ig

3756
02:21:11,510 --> 02:21:09,920
that's a whole nother problem now isn't

3757
02:21:14,790 --> 02:21:11,520
it

3758
02:21:17,830 --> 02:21:14,800
for a

3759
02:21:20,309 --> 02:21:17,840
particular outfit if uh there's no

3760
02:21:23,429 --> 02:21:20,319
emails to substantiate that they didn't

3761
02:21:24,710 --> 02:21:23,439
um you know there's no way to to now

3762
02:21:26,309 --> 02:21:24,720
disprove it what they've what they've

3763
02:21:27,030 --> 02:21:26,319
done is put themselves in a situation

3764
02:21:29,190 --> 02:21:27,040
where

3765
02:21:31,110 --> 02:21:29,200
they can no longer say that i didn't

3766
02:21:32,469 --> 02:21:31,120
work for that organization

3767
02:21:34,230 --> 02:21:32,479
and they did they didn't realize that

3768
02:21:36,309 --> 02:21:34,240
they were hoping that they say well

3769
02:21:37,670 --> 02:21:36,319
these emails will you know we don't have

3770
02:21:39,830 --> 02:21:37,680
his emails uh

3771
02:21:41,750 --> 02:21:39,840
so you know it won't prove that he

3772
02:21:42,870 --> 02:21:41,760
worked for us actually what it did is

3773
02:21:44,870 --> 02:21:42,880
the opposite

3774
02:21:45,910 --> 02:21:44,880
uh because now they're in a legal

3775
02:21:48,950 --> 02:21:45,920
situation where

3776
02:21:50,790 --> 02:21:48,960
they can't disprove it and uh

3777
02:21:52,550 --> 02:21:50,800
you know it's problematic and again for

3778
02:21:53,590 --> 02:21:52,560
me it's just disappointing because now i

3779
02:21:56,309 --> 02:21:53,600
have to

3780
02:21:57,670 --> 02:21:56,319
take you know action against an

3781
02:22:00,309 --> 02:21:57,680
organization that

3782
02:22:02,070 --> 02:22:00,319
in totality is a wonderful organization

3783
02:22:04,309 --> 02:22:02,080
but there are some bad

3784
02:22:05,990 --> 02:22:04,319
elements there are some bad apples that

3785
02:22:08,469 --> 02:22:06,000
that have to be

3786
02:22:09,270 --> 02:22:08,479
unfortunately rooted out because they

3787
02:22:10,870 --> 02:22:09,280
are they are

3788
02:22:13,110 --> 02:22:10,880
they were dragging the good name of the

3789
02:22:16,150 --> 02:22:13,120
entire department down with them

3790
02:22:18,070 --> 02:22:16,160
and it's it's simply because someone

3791
02:22:19,670 --> 02:22:18,080
a couple people got very upset with me

3792
02:22:20,469 --> 02:22:19,680
because i did not read them into the

3793
02:22:22,870 --> 02:22:20,479
program

3794
02:22:24,630 --> 02:22:22,880
they looked like a fool when i left and

3795
02:22:26,070 --> 02:22:24,640
they told everybody i was crazy and then

3796
02:22:26,630 --> 02:22:26,080
when the seniors came down and said no

3797
02:22:28,710 --> 02:22:26,640
actually

3798
02:22:29,910 --> 02:22:28,720
he's not and the program was real and he

3799
02:22:32,469 --> 02:22:29,920
was briefing us

3800
02:22:34,550 --> 02:22:32,479
uh you know they they decided that they

3801
02:22:37,590 --> 02:22:34,560
would try to seek revenge to include

3802
02:22:38,950 --> 02:22:37,600
trying to uh uh you know suspend my my

3803
02:22:42,150 --> 02:22:38,960
security clearance

3804
02:22:42,710 --> 02:22:42,160
um which uh which was completely based

3805
02:22:45,910 --> 02:22:42,720
on on

3806
02:22:49,110 --> 02:22:45,920
on absolute bs um

3807
02:22:50,150 --> 02:22:49,120
can you can you repeat that yeah they

3808
02:22:53,190 --> 02:22:50,160
tried to

3809
02:22:55,990 --> 02:22:53,200
to one of the individuals um who

3810
02:22:56,710 --> 02:22:56,000
who was part of this effort to smear me

3811
02:22:59,349 --> 02:22:56,720
and and

3812
02:23:01,110 --> 02:22:59,359
and basically tell the pao office what

3813
02:23:03,590 --> 02:23:01,120
what how they should respond

3814
02:23:04,150 --> 02:23:03,600
um tried to to was responsible for the

3815
02:23:05,510 --> 02:23:04,160
organization

3816
02:23:07,670 --> 02:23:05,520
that tried to suspend my security

3817
02:23:10,870 --> 02:23:07,680
clearance as recently as last month

3818
02:23:13,190 --> 02:23:10,880
they they they reinvestigated me uh

3819
02:23:14,630 --> 02:23:13,200
and when i found out what it was that

3820
02:23:16,469 --> 02:23:14,640
they're investigating me it was complete

3821
02:23:18,070 --> 02:23:16,479
and total nonsense i said guys that's

3822
02:23:19,830 --> 02:23:18,080
that's not even accurate where are you

3823
02:23:22,550 --> 02:23:19,840
getting this information from

3824
02:23:23,590 --> 02:23:22,560
you know so that's that's one thing if

3825
02:23:25,510 --> 02:23:23,600
you want to accuse me of saying

3826
02:23:26,870 --> 02:23:25,520
something i shouldn't have

3827
02:23:28,230 --> 02:23:26,880
okay fine but then you have to bring out

3828
02:23:29,190 --> 02:23:28,240
the classification guide and you have to

3829
02:23:31,110 --> 02:23:29,200
show me where

3830
02:23:32,710 --> 02:23:31,120
where and i'm very careful about that i

3831
02:23:33,830 --> 02:23:32,720
i know what i can i know my left and

3832
02:23:35,830 --> 02:23:33,840
right limits are

3833
02:23:37,349 --> 02:23:35,840
but this was something so so ridiculous

3834
02:23:39,830 --> 02:23:37,359
and preposterous

3835
02:23:41,429 --> 02:23:39,840
completely nonsensical obviously someone

3836
02:23:45,429 --> 02:23:41,439
had had decided to

3837
02:23:47,030 --> 02:23:45,439
to to bring up something that wasn't

3838
02:23:48,790 --> 02:23:47,040
it first of all it wasn't real and it

3839
02:23:51,670 --> 02:23:48,800
wasn't it wasn't even accurate

3840
02:23:53,190 --> 02:23:51,680
uh that i i hate to say but i kind of

3841
02:23:54,550 --> 02:23:53,200
laughed i'm like man are you are you

3842
02:23:56,469 --> 02:23:54,560
sure you want to

3843
02:23:58,469 --> 02:23:56,479
use that of all the things that you want

3844
02:24:00,790 --> 02:23:58,479
to use to try to suspend my clearance

3845
02:24:02,790 --> 02:24:00,800
you want to use that can you investigate

3846
02:24:03,110 --> 02:24:02,800
me right and so your clearance hasn't

3847
02:24:06,469 --> 02:24:03,120
been

3848
02:24:08,630 --> 02:24:06,479
suspended no it has not um i

3849
02:24:09,590 --> 02:24:08,640
i provided a rebuttal in writing and i

3850
02:24:11,110 --> 02:24:09,600
was very clear

3851
02:24:12,630 --> 02:24:11,120
and i made it very clear to them that if

3852
02:24:13,270 --> 02:24:12,640
they do want to try to suspend my

3853
02:24:15,030 --> 02:24:13,280
clearance

3854
02:24:17,190 --> 02:24:15,040
they damn well better bring everything

3855
02:24:19,110 --> 02:24:17,200
they got because i do know my rights and

3856
02:24:20,950 --> 02:24:19,120
i know damn well what the classification

3857
02:24:22,630 --> 02:24:20,960
guide says and i know damn well

3858
02:24:24,710 --> 02:24:22,640
what's classified it's not so if you're

3859
02:24:25,910 --> 02:24:24,720
going to accuse me of spilling something

3860
02:24:29,030 --> 02:24:25,920
classified

3861
02:24:31,750 --> 02:24:29,040
baby you better have you better have

3862
02:24:32,790 --> 02:24:31,760
everything indicating you're right

3863
02:24:35,830 --> 02:24:32,800
because they're not

3864
02:24:37,429 --> 02:24:35,840
i simply haven't i know i haven't and

3865
02:24:39,190 --> 02:24:37,439
i know that for for many reasons i'm not

3866
02:24:40,870 --> 02:24:39,200
going to get into here so

3867
02:24:42,710 --> 02:24:40,880
uh you know we're in this little bit of

3868
02:24:44,070 --> 02:24:42,720
posturing and dance and i expect that

3869
02:24:45,670 --> 02:24:44,080
any time they could try to revoke my

3870
02:24:47,910 --> 02:24:45,680
security clearance hoping that i

3871
02:24:49,349 --> 02:24:47,920
you know lose my employment now i i you

3872
02:24:50,950 --> 02:24:49,359
know i can't pay my mortgage and maybe

3873
02:24:52,150 --> 02:24:50,960
that's a way to stifle me maybe that's a

3874
02:24:54,389 --> 02:24:52,160
way to muzzle me

3875
02:24:55,510 --> 02:24:54,399
um it's not it's not all it's going to

3876
02:24:56,950 --> 02:24:55,520
do is is you know

3877
02:24:58,950 --> 02:24:56,960
as i said before the more you try to

3878
02:24:59,429 --> 02:24:58,960
muzzle me the louder i'm going to bark

3879
02:25:06,230 --> 02:24:59,439
wow

3880
02:25:08,389 --> 02:25:06,240
uh on behalf of danny for

3881
02:25:09,750 --> 02:25:08,399
with this with your answer to this

3882
02:25:13,110 --> 02:25:09,760
question

3883
02:25:14,309 --> 02:25:13,120
how much did he lose his mind when the

3884
02:25:17,030 --> 02:25:14,319
word got out

3885
02:25:19,349 --> 02:25:17,040
that they deleted your emails just i

3886
02:25:21,910 --> 02:25:19,359
gotta know his reaction

3887
02:25:24,389 --> 02:25:21,920
well look uh because of that i haven't

3888
02:25:27,270 --> 02:25:24,399
had the conversation with him yet

3889
02:25:28,150 --> 02:25:27,280
um he knows about it because he has seen

3890
02:25:30,389 --> 02:25:28,160
some of the

3891
02:25:31,270 --> 02:25:30,399
the back and forth i wanted to give him

3892
02:25:34,550 --> 02:25:31,280
some time to

3893
02:25:36,550 --> 02:25:34,560
to absorb uh i am absolutely certain he

3894
02:25:39,910 --> 02:25:36,560
probably went apoplectic

3895
02:25:42,230 --> 02:25:39,920
uh you know as as um as

3896
02:25:44,469 --> 02:25:42,240
most of us you know kind of kind of

3897
02:25:46,710 --> 02:25:44,479
recognize what this what was going on

3898
02:25:48,550 --> 02:25:46,720
uh i mean it's absurd it's it's you know

3899
02:25:50,309 --> 02:25:48,560
it's an absolute abortion of justice it

3900
02:25:52,790 --> 02:25:50,319
goes against everything that

3901
02:25:53,750 --> 02:25:52,800
that we're supposed to be doing to to

3902
02:25:55,830 --> 02:25:53,760
include

3903
02:25:57,590 --> 02:25:55,840
uh you know deleting files that are that

3904
02:26:01,030 --> 02:25:57,600
are discoverable in a court of law

3905
02:26:02,630 --> 02:26:01,040
i mean who who does that i mean you know

3906
02:26:04,389 --> 02:26:02,640
uh i don't think the judicial branch

3907
02:26:05,990 --> 02:26:04,399
would be very happy to find that out you

3908
02:26:08,710 --> 02:26:06,000
know that you know one of their their

3909
02:26:10,630 --> 02:26:08,720
main cases now as as potentially

3910
02:26:14,230 --> 02:26:10,640
critical evidence has been destroyed

3911
02:26:15,110 --> 02:26:14,240
you know what uh i i don't know what to

3912
02:26:16,070 --> 02:26:15,120
say man they

3913
02:26:17,670 --> 02:26:16,080
you know they put they painted

3914
02:26:19,030 --> 02:26:17,680
themselves in the corner i don't think

3915
02:26:21,510 --> 02:26:19,040
they need any more help by me

3916
02:26:22,870 --> 02:26:21,520
to to push him further into it they've

3917
02:26:26,230 --> 02:26:22,880
got some like you say

3918
02:26:27,110 --> 02:26:26,240
serious explaining to do um in the words

3919
02:26:29,590 --> 02:26:27,120
of my father

3920
02:26:30,150 --> 02:26:29,600
um you know i think i think they've got

3921
02:26:36,870 --> 02:26:30,160
to

3922
02:26:39,270 --> 02:26:36,880
general

3923
02:26:40,309 --> 02:26:39,280
i'm going to be uh with danny uh in a

3924
02:26:42,710 --> 02:26:40,319
couple of days

3925
02:26:43,910 --> 02:26:42,720
and uh i just can't wait to see him

3926
02:26:46,550 --> 02:26:43,920
again i haven't seen him in

3927
02:26:47,670 --> 02:26:46,560
in a year year and a half but i'm going

3928
02:26:50,150 --> 02:26:47,680
to see him next week

3929
02:26:51,590 --> 02:26:50,160
and and i can't wait for that lou i want

3930
02:26:54,469 --> 02:26:51,600
to thank you for taking the time i know

3931
02:26:56,630 --> 02:26:54,479
you've got a very busy media schedule

3932
02:26:58,550 --> 02:26:56,640
um of course your family and everything

3933
02:27:01,429 --> 02:26:58,560
else that you've got going on

3934
02:27:02,870 --> 02:27:01,439
great conversation tonight and we will

3935
02:27:03,830 --> 02:27:02,880
obviously we've got some other things

3936
02:27:06,710 --> 02:27:03,840
going on

3937
02:27:07,590 --> 02:27:06,720
including uh july 17th with our online

3938
02:27:09,510 --> 02:27:07,600
conference

3939
02:27:12,389 --> 02:27:09,520
uh that you're going to be a part of uh

3940
02:27:14,150 --> 02:27:12,399
but uh we will be speaking soon thank

3941
02:27:14,870 --> 02:27:14,160
you so much lou and enjoy the rest of

3942
02:27:17,429 --> 02:27:14,880
your night

3943
02:27:19,030 --> 02:27:17,439
go have a beer jimmy always my honor and

3944
02:27:20,469 --> 02:27:19,040
pleasure thank you so much and a big

3945
02:27:21,429 --> 02:27:20,479
thank you to your audience too for

3946
02:27:23,830 --> 02:27:21,439
making this happen

3947
02:27:25,670 --> 02:27:23,840
obviously you and i uh to have this

3948
02:27:28,070 --> 02:27:25,680
conversation by ourselves

3949
02:27:29,670 --> 02:27:28,080
um doesn't accomplish very much what

3950
02:27:30,309 --> 02:27:29,680
what what makes a difference is you're

3951
02:27:31,750 --> 02:27:30,319
you're

3952
02:27:33,110 --> 02:27:31,760
the engagement of your audience and then

3953
02:27:34,309 --> 02:27:33,120
your audience going and telling friends

3954
02:27:35,750 --> 02:27:34,319
and then your audience going ahead and

3955
02:27:36,950 --> 02:27:35,760
talking to members of congress and

3956
02:27:38,230 --> 02:27:36,960
talking to the media

3957
02:27:39,670 --> 02:27:38,240
and saying it's okay to have this

3958
02:27:40,230 --> 02:27:39,680
conversation they're really the ones

3959
02:27:44,070 --> 02:27:40,240
that

3960
02:27:46,070 --> 02:27:44,080
besides you and of course

3961
02:27:47,429 --> 02:27:46,080
you know my family and everybody else

3962
02:27:49,190 --> 02:27:47,439
it's it's the audience

3963
02:27:51,270 --> 02:27:49,200
because without without them and their

3964
02:27:52,950 --> 02:27:51,280
participation this means nothing

3965
02:27:54,710 --> 02:27:52,960
so for all of you out there that are

3966
02:27:55,510 --> 02:27:54,720
listening to me and yes even my haters

3967
02:27:57,110 --> 02:27:55,520
out there

3968
02:27:59,030 --> 02:27:57,120
thank you for at least taking the time

3969
02:28:01,670 --> 02:27:59,040
and and and listening to me

3970
02:28:03,270 --> 02:28:01,680
uh have this conversation with jimmy um

3971
02:28:04,790 --> 02:28:03,280
i i really do appreciate this

3972
02:28:07,349 --> 02:28:04,800
opportunity thank you so much

3973
02:28:09,429 --> 02:28:07,359
lou elizondo thank you so much lou like

3974
02:28:12,550 --> 02:28:09,439
i said go have that beer

3975
02:28:14,870 --> 02:28:12,560
10-4 you got to have a good night lou

3976
02:28:15,670 --> 02:28:14,880
elizondo i'm gonna take a quick break

3977
02:28:19,030 --> 02:28:15,680
right here

3978
02:28:19,830 --> 02:28:19,040
and uh before i jump off uh thank you so

3979
02:28:22,309 --> 02:28:19,840
much lou

3980
02:28:22,870 --> 02:28:22,319
i want to say to everybody virtual

3981
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shield

3982
02:28:33,590 --> 02:28:30,080
vpn now you need it get your security

3983
02:28:35,670 --> 02:28:33,600
do it now click on the video link

3984
02:28:37,670 --> 02:28:35,680
the link in the video description box

3985
02:28:39,190 --> 02:28:37,680
below they are a great supporter of this

3986
02:28:41,110 --> 02:28:39,200
show

3987
02:28:43,110 --> 02:28:41,120
thank you so much luke i'll be right

3988
02:28:57,429 --> 02:28:43,120
back i'm gonna open up the phone lines i

3989
02:29:01,670 --> 02:28:59,750
hey what up y'all biblical fox here and

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you are listening to my boy

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despite popular opinion reading a book

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this is jimmy church and i'll be at the

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it's not a lifestyle we chose we were

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this is kjcr church jimmychurchradio.com

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welcome back fade to black i'm your host

4085
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4086
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hey eric pull these videos down man

4087
02:33:50,309 --> 02:33:45,680
[Music]

4088
02:33:53,429 --> 02:33:50,319
don't be posting pull

4089
02:33:55,510 --> 02:33:53,439
this down

4090
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all right that's it i'm talking to

4091
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awakening man directly don't be posting

4092
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my copy written stuff yeah you don't

4093
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have permission pull it down

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i better not see that again okay all

4095
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right

4096
02:34:11,510 --> 02:34:10,399
wow thank you lou elizondo that was a

4097
02:34:15,590 --> 02:34:11,520
great conversation

4098
02:34:18,630 --> 02:34:15,600
steve morillo texted me during the break

4099
02:34:21,750 --> 02:34:18,640
uh thank you so much for that steve

4100
02:34:23,670 --> 02:34:21,760
you're the absolute best and uh

4101
02:34:25,190 --> 02:34:23,680
thank you lou um that was a great

4102
02:34:28,550 --> 02:34:25,200
conversation um

4103
02:34:31,670 --> 02:34:28,560
you know this was highly anticipated uh

4104
02:34:33,670 --> 02:34:31,680
uh by everybody in the community uh with

4105
02:34:35,030 --> 02:34:33,680
the climate of everything that is going

4106
02:34:38,550 --> 02:34:35,040
on right now

4107
02:34:40,070 --> 02:34:38,560
um and uh these questions needed to be

4108
02:34:41,830 --> 02:34:40,080
addressed i wanted to hear from lou

4109
02:34:45,030 --> 02:34:41,840
straight up um there

4110
02:34:47,030 --> 02:34:45,040
is uh not you know this and i

4111
02:34:48,710 --> 02:34:47,040
i kind of stated this at the beginning

4112
02:34:50,469 --> 02:34:48,720
got a lot of uh calls on hold i'm gonna

4113
02:34:54,230 --> 02:34:50,479
get to those in just a second

4114
02:34:56,389 --> 02:34:54,240
um uh that uh this community is one

4115
02:34:57,349 --> 02:34:56,399
thing the divisiveness of the world is

4116
02:35:00,630 --> 02:34:57,359
another

4117
02:35:01,270 --> 02:35:00,640
it's a microcosm of everything that is

4118
02:35:04,710 --> 02:35:01,280
going on

4119
02:35:06,150 --> 02:35:04,720
community and lose right in the middle

4120
02:35:08,550 --> 02:35:06,160
of it and now

4121
02:35:09,590 --> 02:35:08,560
uh the the situation that he finds

4122
02:35:12,070 --> 02:35:09,600
himself in with

4123
02:35:12,790 --> 02:35:12,080
the department of defense uh it's an

4124
02:35:14,870 --> 02:35:12,800
outrage

4125
02:35:16,469 --> 02:35:14,880
i'm not cool with it i'm not cool with

4126
02:35:19,510 --> 02:35:16,479
it at all

4127
02:35:21,429 --> 02:35:19,520
and uh bringing luan uh to

4128
02:35:23,110 --> 02:35:21,439
to be able to open up about this look

4129
02:35:24,469 --> 02:35:23,120
everybody wants to talk to lou about

4130
02:35:27,110 --> 02:35:24,479
uaps

4131
02:35:28,230 --> 02:35:27,120
and there there's other stuff that is

4132
02:35:31,030 --> 02:35:28,240
going on

4133
02:35:32,710 --> 02:35:31,040
that's what we talked about tonight um

4134
02:35:33,030 --> 02:35:32,720
incredible conversation thank you so

4135
02:35:35,910 --> 02:35:33,040
much

4136
02:35:36,630 --> 02:35:35,920
lou and my best to you and your family

4137
02:35:39,349 --> 02:35:36,640
and uh

4138
02:35:40,389 --> 02:35:39,359
jennifer it's a better shot than lou

4139
02:35:44,389 --> 02:35:40,399
duly noted

4140
02:35:45,910 --> 02:35:44,399
okay all right whoo man

4141
02:35:47,429 --> 02:35:45,920
let's get to the phones let's see who's

4142
02:35:49,670 --> 02:35:47,439
up first hi you're live on fade to black

4143
02:35:54,469 --> 02:35:49,680
who's calling

4144
02:35:57,429 --> 02:35:54,479
hey jimmy this is uh kane kane

4145
02:35:58,469 --> 02:35:57,439
yeah how are you doing man i'll see you

4146
02:35:59,910 --> 02:35:58,479
pretty good how are you

4147
02:36:01,990 --> 02:35:59,920
i'm i'm doing good where are you calling

4148
02:36:06,070 --> 02:36:02,000
from kane

4149
02:36:07,429 --> 02:36:06,080
uh north carolina north carolina gotcha

4150
02:36:09,990 --> 02:36:07,439
all right what's on your mind what'd you

4151
02:36:11,990 --> 02:36:10,000
think about that conversation

4152
02:36:13,830 --> 02:36:12,000
well i thought it was this i thought it

4153
02:36:17,830 --> 02:36:13,840
was a good conversation i

4154
02:36:19,830 --> 02:36:17,840
um i asked you

4155
02:36:22,870 --> 02:36:19,840
i think last time i called i asked you

4156
02:36:23,910 --> 02:36:22,880
about stephen greer and i told you that

4157
02:36:27,270 --> 02:36:23,920
he had

4158
02:36:30,630 --> 02:36:27,280
a documentary coming out

4159
02:36:33,750 --> 02:36:30,640
uh-huh and i just want to clarify

4160
02:36:37,510 --> 02:36:33,760
the name of the documentary

4161
02:36:40,309 --> 02:36:37,520
um i don't know it's cosmic hoax

4162
02:36:40,630 --> 02:36:40,319
i think it is yeah yeah i like it yeah i

4163
02:36:48,830 --> 02:36:40,640
don't

4164
02:36:55,670 --> 02:36:52,630
yes very good conversation

4165
02:36:58,870 --> 02:36:55,680
i wonder what what is what does lou

4166
02:37:00,950 --> 02:36:58,880
think that you the uaps are did you

4167
02:37:04,950 --> 02:37:00,960
think they're

4168
02:37:07,510 --> 02:37:04,960
um hey hang out for a second kane

4169
02:37:10,070 --> 02:37:07,520
what is the name of your new documentary

4170
02:37:11,429 --> 02:37:10,080
question mark

4171
02:37:13,110 --> 02:37:11,439
there you go i'm going to find out right

4172
02:37:16,469 --> 02:37:13,120
now okay

4173
02:37:19,750 --> 02:37:18,230
that's how you do it man i'll i'll let

4174
02:37:21,990 --> 02:37:19,760
you know

4175
02:37:23,830 --> 02:37:22,000
and uh it should come in here in a

4176
02:37:24,630 --> 02:37:23,840
second see man you go straight to the

4177
02:37:26,550 --> 02:37:24,640
source

4178
02:37:27,990 --> 02:37:26,560
you don't play around kane you just go

4179
02:37:28,950 --> 02:37:28,000
straight to the source you ask me a

4180
02:37:32,389 --> 02:37:28,960
question

4181
02:37:35,110 --> 02:37:32,399
i'm gonna find out cool

4182
02:37:37,590 --> 02:37:35,120
all right appreciate it that's it

4183
02:37:42,389 --> 02:37:37,600
anything else

4184
02:37:49,190 --> 02:37:46,150
um kane you're live on the radio

4185
02:37:52,469 --> 02:37:49,200
right now let's get to it

4186
02:37:54,950 --> 02:37:52,479
what's up um

4187
02:37:56,870 --> 02:37:54,960
so what exactly are in those emails that

4188
02:38:01,590 --> 02:37:56,880
they deleted

4189
02:38:03,349 --> 02:38:01,600
wow what is those that's fine

4190
02:38:04,870 --> 02:38:03,359
wouldn't the world like to know i mean

4191
02:38:07,030 --> 02:38:04,880
that's uh

4192
02:38:08,870 --> 02:38:07,040
that's the million-dollar question uh

4193
02:38:10,230 --> 02:38:08,880
they've been deleted i certainly haven't

4194
02:38:13,429 --> 02:38:10,240
read the emails

4195
02:38:14,309 --> 02:38:13,439
um they're deleted now so yeah i don't

4196
02:38:18,150 --> 02:38:14,319
know

4197
02:38:22,950 --> 02:38:21,750
lou said one thing um that i think we

4198
02:38:26,070 --> 02:38:22,960
all understand

4199
02:38:29,190 --> 02:38:26,080
um it's not just you know

4200
02:38:30,230 --> 02:38:29,200
those emails come and go and are sent to

4201
02:38:32,790 --> 02:38:30,240
and answered

4202
02:38:34,950 --> 02:38:32,800
from other people too as well

4203
02:38:37,030 --> 02:38:34,960
everybody's emails accounts couldn't

4204
02:38:41,030 --> 02:38:37,040
have been deleted too

4205
02:38:44,150 --> 02:38:41,040
so those emails exist in other areas

4206
02:38:47,590 --> 02:38:44,160
and uh i am

4207
02:38:51,349 --> 02:38:47,600
sure that they

4208
02:38:54,150 --> 02:38:51,359
are um they're still there

4209
02:38:55,990 --> 02:38:54,160
they may you know i i do you know kane

4210
02:38:58,870 --> 02:38:56,000
i'm gonna be straight

4211
02:39:00,550 --> 02:38:58,880
it's a lie okay it's a lie they didn't

4212
02:39:02,550 --> 02:39:00,560
delete his emails

4213
02:39:03,590 --> 02:39:02,560
they didn't delete the backups to his

4214
02:39:05,349 --> 02:39:03,600
emails

4215
02:39:07,270 --> 02:39:05,359
uh there's too much historical

4216
02:39:08,230 --> 02:39:07,280
significance there that that's just a

4217
02:39:10,550 --> 02:39:08,240
plain lie

4218
02:39:12,230 --> 02:39:10,560
i don't believe it i don't believe it

4219
02:39:15,429 --> 02:39:12,240
and uh danny sheehan

4220
02:39:18,070 --> 02:39:15,439
will get to the bottom of it

4221
02:39:19,270 --> 02:39:18,080
and danny sheen's the right guy uh for

4222
02:39:21,270 --> 02:39:19,280
this task

4223
02:39:23,030 --> 02:39:21,280
so there you go absolutely yeah

4224
02:39:25,670 --> 02:39:23,040
absolutely thank you so much kane

4225
02:39:27,190 --> 02:39:25,680
when i get uh when i get the uh answer

4226
02:39:29,349 --> 02:39:27,200
to your question about the name of this

4227
02:39:32,070 --> 02:39:29,359
new documentary by stephen greer

4228
02:39:33,190 --> 02:39:32,080
i'll say it on the air okay thank you so

4229
02:39:36,389 --> 02:39:33,200
much man okay

4230
02:39:38,309 --> 02:39:36,399
have a great night and uh yeah

4231
02:39:39,510 --> 02:39:38,319
i don't i don't know what's in those

4232
02:39:42,790 --> 02:39:39,520
emails

4233
02:39:46,230 --> 02:39:42,800
i don't have any idea oh

4234
02:39:47,030 --> 02:39:46,240
bunker cam is down my bad bunker cam is

4235
02:39:47,990 --> 02:39:47,040
up

4236
02:39:50,469 --> 02:39:48,000
there you go

4237
02:39:52,389 --> 02:39:50,479
[Laughter]

4238
02:39:53,830 --> 02:39:52,399
there you go all right let's go back to

4239
02:39:55,270 --> 02:39:53,840
the phones

4240
02:39:56,950 --> 02:39:55,280
hi you're live on fade to black who's

4241
02:39:59,910 --> 02:39:56,960
calling

4242
02:40:01,830 --> 02:39:59,920
jimmy this is steve from long beach uh

4243
02:40:05,429 --> 02:40:01,840
oh we've talked a couple of times

4244
02:40:07,510 --> 02:40:05,439
not that you remember but uh i uh

4245
02:40:09,349 --> 02:40:07,520
gonna i'm i'm looking forward to seeing

4246
02:40:11,110 --> 02:40:09,359
you guys i'm here in havasu

4247
02:40:12,950 --> 02:40:11,120
and i'll be going into laughing in

4248
02:40:14,950 --> 02:40:12,960
another couple of days

4249
02:40:16,150 --> 02:40:14,960
and uh have you ever been to havasu by

4250
02:40:18,630 --> 02:40:16,160
any chance i have

4251
02:40:20,469 --> 02:40:18,640
yes of course everybody's been to havasu

4252
02:40:23,750 --> 02:40:20,479
steve come on man

4253
02:40:28,870 --> 02:40:23,760
hey i heard i i heard that it's it's the

4254
02:40:36,710 --> 02:40:33,670
you mean the the the water is down

4255
02:40:40,710 --> 02:40:36,720
yes yes a little bit but uh

4256
02:40:41,110 --> 02:40:40,720
last weekend uh i left the holiday but

4257
02:40:43,110 --> 02:40:41,120
they

4258
02:40:45,510 --> 02:40:43,120
you wouldn't think so because the lake

4259
02:40:47,990 --> 02:40:45,520
looked like the 405 freeway

4260
02:40:48,550 --> 02:40:48,000
that we have out here yeah yeah but have

4261
02:40:52,230 --> 02:40:48,560
you ever

4262
02:40:55,190 --> 02:40:52,240
of havasu coming in

4263
02:40:55,830 --> 02:40:55,200
through parker oh i have i have no idea

4264
02:40:57,429 --> 02:40:55,840
how i

4265
02:40:59,110 --> 02:40:57,439
approached havasu i've been out there a

4266
02:41:00,950 --> 02:40:59,120
few times though

4267
02:41:02,630 --> 02:41:00,960
yeah well you're gonna go from your

4268
02:41:05,910 --> 02:41:02,640
place you're going to go out to 40

4269
02:41:08,389 --> 02:41:05,920
to go to loughlin and uh

4270
02:41:09,830 --> 02:41:08,399
yeah off of the 15. yeah that yeah that

4271
02:41:11,030 --> 02:41:09,840
makes sense you can take the 15 to the

4272
02:41:13,110 --> 02:41:11,040
40. that's where you're gonna

4273
02:41:15,349 --> 02:41:13,120
well you can do that to have a suit i

4274
02:41:17,510 --> 02:41:15,359
come in the back way but it's just a

4275
02:41:19,030 --> 02:41:17,520
long long stretch and i keep looking out

4276
02:41:21,349 --> 02:41:19,040
there and i'm thinking you know if there

4277
02:41:22,630 --> 02:41:21,359
was ever a place for a ufo to make a

4278
02:41:25,670 --> 02:41:22,640
shot

4279
02:41:29,030 --> 02:41:25,680
this is it wide open desert

4280
02:41:30,630 --> 02:41:29,040
mountains out there and uh i

4281
02:41:32,150 --> 02:41:30,640
i kept looking at him and i thought you

4282
02:41:34,150 --> 02:41:32,160
know um

4283
02:41:35,830 --> 02:41:34,160
i am fascinated now i'm looking forward

4284
02:41:37,190 --> 02:41:35,840
to this conference and it's kind of a

4285
02:41:41,110 --> 02:41:37,200
mixed blessing because

4286
02:41:45,349 --> 02:41:41,120
kevin and i were supposed to meet up

4287
02:41:48,389 --> 02:41:45,359
and um he was gonna uh you know show me

4288
02:41:49,590 --> 02:41:48,399
the ropes and stuff and it's some

4289
02:41:53,030 --> 02:41:49,600
heartbroken there but

4290
02:41:54,950 --> 02:41:53,040
god had other plans for him yeah but uh

4291
02:41:57,030 --> 02:41:54,960
yeah we talked about i said i'm

4292
02:42:01,190 --> 02:41:57,040
fascinated about

4293
02:42:03,429 --> 02:42:01,200
these uh well like offline saucers but

4294
02:42:06,550 --> 02:42:03,439
these are for physical

4295
02:42:08,070 --> 02:42:06,560
i guess material aircraft because

4296
02:42:10,309 --> 02:42:08,080
they've crashed and we've had we've seen

4297
02:42:12,070 --> 02:42:10,319
pictures of all of them crashed

4298
02:42:13,670 --> 02:42:12,080
but how come we don't ever see a sonic

4299
02:42:17,110 --> 02:42:13,680
hero sonic boom when they all said

4300
02:42:21,429 --> 02:42:17,120
boom they're gone i you know

4301
02:42:24,870 --> 02:42:21,439
i have uh uh thought about that a

4302
02:42:27,830 --> 02:42:24,880
million times when we are seeing

4303
02:42:28,150 --> 02:42:27,840
something um in the sky that's obviously

4304
02:42:31,429 --> 02:42:28,160
uh

4305
02:42:33,269 --> 02:42:31,439
moving at a pretty pretty fast rate and

4306
02:42:35,110 --> 02:42:33,279
you don't hear anything

4307
02:42:36,389 --> 02:42:35,120
you know not only do you not hear a

4308
02:42:39,190 --> 02:42:36,399
sonic boom but

4309
02:42:39,750 --> 02:42:39,200
you don't hear nothing you don't hear

4310
02:42:42,950 --> 02:42:39,760
nothing

4311
02:42:46,150 --> 02:42:42,960
i mean i i remember one time

4312
02:42:49,750 --> 02:42:46,160
i was with a large group of people and

4313
02:42:53,510 --> 02:42:49,760
the only way i can describe this it was

4314
02:42:57,429 --> 02:42:53,520
just a flying saucer it was round

4315
02:42:59,590 --> 02:42:57,439
you could see that uh oh the um

4316
02:43:00,469 --> 02:42:59,600
the name of stephen greer's new

4317
02:43:03,750 --> 02:43:00,479
documentary

4318
02:43:07,030 --> 02:43:03,760
is the cosmic hoax okay

4319
02:43:10,070 --> 02:43:07,040
everybody there oh there it is okay so

4320
02:43:12,469 --> 02:43:10,080
um uh but anyway so this thing is is

4321
02:43:13,349 --> 02:43:12,479
is approaching and as it went over i'm

4322
02:43:16,150 --> 02:43:13,359
not gonna

4323
02:43:17,429 --> 02:43:16,160
get into great detail but it was kind of

4324
02:43:20,070 --> 02:43:17,439
it looked like uh

4325
02:43:22,150 --> 02:43:20,080
it looked like a pearl it was kind of

4326
02:43:23,830 --> 02:43:22,160
white but it had some blue and it had

4327
02:43:24,630 --> 02:43:23,840
some pink in it and kind of changed

4328
02:43:27,750 --> 02:43:24,640
colors but

4329
02:43:31,190 --> 02:43:27,760
anyway it went over pretty low

4330
02:43:32,630 --> 02:43:31,200
and i thought at the time when this went

4331
02:43:36,389 --> 02:43:32,640
down

4332
02:43:39,510 --> 02:43:36,399
i thought i was going to hear it

4333
02:43:41,830 --> 02:43:39,520
right so i was listening for it

4334
02:43:44,309 --> 02:43:41,840
and it didn't make a sound made no sound

4335
02:43:46,710 --> 02:43:44,319
and just went right over us

4336
02:43:47,429 --> 02:43:46,720
and uh we were all hooping and hollering

4337
02:43:50,309 --> 02:43:47,439
but

4338
02:43:51,190 --> 02:43:50,319
i was expecting some noise something and

4339
02:43:54,389 --> 02:43:51,200
it was

4340
02:43:56,550 --> 02:43:54,399
perfectly silent perfectly silent

4341
02:43:58,230 --> 02:43:56,560
i've never heard noise no i've never

4342
02:44:00,389 --> 02:43:58,240
heard anything make any noise

4343
02:44:02,150 --> 02:44:00,399
what did you think of lou's conversation

4344
02:44:03,830 --> 02:44:02,160
tonight

4345
02:44:05,269 --> 02:44:03,840
i missed most of it i'm going to listen

4346
02:44:07,910 --> 02:44:05,279
to it on the replay

4347
02:44:10,070 --> 02:44:07,920
all right what i heard i'm just i is

4348
02:44:11,750 --> 02:44:10,080
going to re-listen and re-listen to him

4349
02:44:13,510 --> 02:44:11,760
i was going to ask you real quick uh

4350
02:44:17,110 --> 02:44:13,520
several months back

4351
02:44:19,349 --> 02:44:17,120
you had a fella on that

4352
02:44:21,110 --> 02:44:19,359
had about the big foot i guess the

4353
02:44:22,710 --> 02:44:21,120
sasquatches and he had some sort of a

4354
02:44:25,990 --> 02:44:22,720
machine that brought him in

4355
02:44:27,590 --> 02:44:26,000
from uh some dimensional he brought him

4356
02:44:30,710 --> 02:44:27,600
over he saved him

4357
02:44:32,150 --> 02:44:30,720
uh from where their planet was dying and

4358
02:44:35,110 --> 02:44:32,160
he brought him here to

4359
02:44:36,389 --> 02:44:35,120
earth and it was on fade to black and i

4360
02:44:39,910 --> 02:44:36,399
thought his name was steve and i

4361
02:44:42,230 --> 02:44:39,920
couldn't remember his uh yes yes yes

4362
02:44:44,469 --> 02:44:42,240
and i just i'll i'll talk to you about

4363
02:44:47,269 --> 02:44:44,479
how you feel about that uh

4364
02:44:48,230 --> 02:44:47,279
at the conference if i see you but uh i

4365
02:44:52,790 --> 02:44:48,240
have never

4366
02:44:54,309 --> 02:44:52,800
seen a ufo but my other little tidbit is

4367
02:44:56,469 --> 02:44:54,319
i don't believe the government's going

4368
02:44:58,550 --> 02:44:56,479
to give us disclosure

4369
02:44:59,750 --> 02:44:58,560
anytime soon other than what they have

4370
02:45:02,710 --> 02:44:59,760
to

4371
02:45:04,309 --> 02:45:02,720
i don't trust the government not one bit

4372
02:45:06,550 --> 02:45:04,319
whatever they give

4373
02:45:07,750 --> 02:45:06,560
they're either getting twisted or

4374
02:45:10,469 --> 02:45:07,760
they're lying

4375
02:45:12,230 --> 02:45:10,479
because oh yeah i'm looking at it we've

4376
02:45:14,230 --> 02:45:12,240
known for 75 years

4377
02:45:16,469 --> 02:45:14,240
i just uh oh by the way i'm going to

4378
02:45:17,590 --> 02:45:16,479
digress the birthdays you missed today

4379
02:45:19,750 --> 02:45:17,600
one birthday

4380
02:45:21,269 --> 02:45:19,760
you missed uh leave it the beaver jerry

4381
02:45:25,269 --> 02:45:21,279
mather's birthday today too

4382
02:45:27,990 --> 02:45:25,279
is he still with us yes yes he is

4383
02:45:30,870 --> 02:45:28,000
it's his birthday man that's my fault

4384
02:45:32,710 --> 02:45:30,880
happy birthday the beast

4385
02:45:34,309 --> 02:45:32,720
and you and you forgot steve from long

4386
02:45:35,750 --> 02:45:34,319
beach beaver and i shared the same

4387
02:45:36,870 --> 02:45:35,760
birthday that's where he's dying on his

4388
02:45:39,990 --> 02:45:36,880
night though

4389
02:45:43,510 --> 02:45:40,000
but um all right the reason i'm thinking

4390
02:45:44,710 --> 02:45:43,520
but uh i'll help you go but for 75 years

4391
02:45:47,190 --> 02:45:44,720
we've known everything

4392
02:45:49,030 --> 02:45:47,200
much more than we've known eisenhower i

4393
02:45:50,630 --> 02:45:49,040
think was the last president that knew

4394
02:45:52,230 --> 02:45:50,640
everything

4395
02:45:54,150 --> 02:45:52,240
and when he said beware of the

4396
02:45:54,950 --> 02:45:54,160
military-industrial complex i always

4397
02:45:57,590 --> 02:45:54,960
kept wondering

4398
02:45:58,710 --> 02:45:57,600
what he's talking about and now with

4399
02:46:02,230 --> 02:45:58,720
wright patterson

4400
02:46:05,269 --> 02:46:02,240
area 51 but i think the government

4401
02:46:06,230 --> 02:46:05,279
is they're going to have to say

4402
02:46:08,950 --> 02:46:06,240
something but i think

4403
02:46:11,030 --> 02:46:08,960
actually the extraterrestrials are going

4404
02:46:13,110 --> 02:46:11,040
to force them into it

4405
02:46:14,870 --> 02:46:13,120
they're just there's too many people now

4406
02:46:17,750 --> 02:46:14,880
and how many lives you think over the

4407
02:46:20,950 --> 02:46:17,760
years they have ruined people's lives

4408
02:46:23,990 --> 02:46:20,960
uh gotten them fired discredited

4409
02:46:26,710 --> 02:46:24,000
mocking them humiliating them

4410
02:46:28,389 --> 02:46:26,720
and when it all comes out they're gonna

4411
02:46:32,150 --> 02:46:28,399
have to admit they were wrong

4412
02:46:36,309 --> 02:46:32,160
i mean uh it's

4413
02:46:38,230 --> 02:46:36,319
it's you can't have this many people um

4414
02:46:40,710 --> 02:46:38,240
seeing so many things throughout the

4415
02:46:44,710 --> 02:46:40,720
entire world

4416
02:46:46,630 --> 02:46:44,720
uh and i'm i'm i'm just planning to uh

4417
02:46:47,910 --> 02:46:46,640
really get there and absorb as much as i

4418
02:46:50,630 --> 02:46:47,920
can and

4419
02:46:52,710 --> 02:46:50,640
i'll let you go real quick we talked if

4420
02:46:55,349 --> 02:46:52,720
you remember there i call them the fake

4421
02:46:55,830 --> 02:46:55,359
colonel from edwards air force base and

4422
02:46:58,550 --> 02:46:55,840
i think

4423
02:47:00,870 --> 02:46:58,560
it was grier that was on that night and

4424
02:47:03,349 --> 02:47:00,880
he called up and he was real obnoxious

4425
02:47:04,469 --> 02:47:03,359
the man's lying and i just thought to

4426
02:47:07,429 --> 02:47:04,479
myself

4427
02:47:09,030 --> 02:47:07,439
you idiot i mean if you don't agree with

4428
02:47:11,030 --> 02:47:09,040
the guy that's okay

4429
02:47:12,950 --> 02:47:11,040
yeah i remember that was that was a fake

4430
02:47:14,790 --> 02:47:12,960
call it was it was kind of fun

4431
02:47:15,990 --> 02:47:14,800
you know you know what is steve when

4432
02:47:18,710 --> 02:47:16,000
that stuff happens

4433
02:47:19,110 --> 02:47:18,720
it doesn't happen often on the show but

4434
02:47:27,750 --> 02:47:19,120
i

4435
02:47:30,950 --> 02:47:27,760
and

4436
02:47:34,230 --> 02:47:30,960
with it

4437
02:47:35,590 --> 02:47:34,240
that's all and uh steve enjoy enjoy

4438
02:47:37,750 --> 02:47:35,600
the rest of your night and i'll see you

4439
02:47:39,510 --> 02:47:37,760
next week in laughlin

4440
02:47:41,030 --> 02:47:39,520
you got it thank you for taking the call

4441
02:47:43,830 --> 02:47:41,040
yeah thank you thank you steve

4442
02:47:44,389 --> 02:47:43,840
steve's coming out to laughlin are you

4443
02:47:46,230 --> 02:47:44,399
coming

4444
02:47:47,990 --> 02:47:46,240
out to laughlin it's going to be great

4445
02:47:49,110 --> 02:47:48,000
man danny sheen's going to be there sean

4446
02:47:51,590 --> 02:47:49,120
stone's going to be there richard

4447
02:47:54,790 --> 02:47:51,600
dolan's going to be there sid

4448
02:47:55,990 --> 02:47:54,800
goldberg that's right from gaia he's

4449
02:48:02,870 --> 02:47:56,000
going to be there

4450
02:48:06,469 --> 02:48:02,880
gonna be there's i think we've got

4451
02:48:10,150 --> 02:48:06,479
40 speakers uh over seven days

4452
02:48:11,590 --> 02:48:10,160
um so i'm so looking forward to it and

4453
02:48:13,429 --> 02:48:11,600
this is what happens every time i get

4454
02:48:15,750 --> 02:48:13,439
ready for a conference

4455
02:48:16,870 --> 02:48:15,760
excited about it and excited you talk

4456
02:48:18,950 --> 02:48:16,880
about it

4457
02:48:20,790 --> 02:48:18,960
the buildup but here we are man that's

4458
02:48:21,670 --> 02:48:20,800
it uh tomorrow night fade to black and

4459
02:48:23,590 --> 02:48:21,680
then

4460
02:48:25,510 --> 02:48:23,600
let's uh pack up everything and get

4461
02:48:28,950 --> 02:48:25,520
ready and and hit the road that's it

4462
02:48:31,030 --> 02:48:28,960
and uh the conference has arrived

4463
02:48:32,150 --> 02:48:31,040
so there you go all right let's uh let's

4464
02:48:33,590 --> 02:48:32,160
go back to the phones

4465
02:48:35,190 --> 02:48:33,600
hi you're live on fade to black who's

4466
02:48:37,269 --> 02:48:35,200
calling

4467
02:48:38,309 --> 02:48:37,279
hey jimmy it's uh jed from new york we

4468
02:48:40,230 --> 02:48:38,319
spoke last night

4469
02:48:41,990 --> 02:48:40,240
firstborn son longtime listener how you

4470
02:48:45,429 --> 02:48:42,000
doing i'm doing good man how are you

4471
02:48:48,150 --> 02:48:45,439
it's jed good yeah jed like you know

4472
02:48:49,269 --> 02:48:48,160
jedi without the eye jedi without that's

4473
02:48:52,870 --> 02:48:49,279
what i wrote

4474
02:48:56,070 --> 02:48:52,880
i literally wrote jedi without the eye

4475
02:48:57,830 --> 02:48:56,080
so there you go oh perfect all right i

4476
02:48:58,710 --> 02:48:57,840
gotta bust your chops yeah i made the

4477
02:49:01,269 --> 02:48:58,720
mistake too

4478
02:49:01,910 --> 02:49:01,279
you keep saying susan go it's susan's

4479
02:49:04,309 --> 02:49:01,920
goth

4480
02:49:06,309 --> 02:49:04,319
like [\h__\h] now i've i've heard i've heard

4481
02:49:07,990 --> 02:49:06,319
i've heard i've heard both versions i'm

4482
02:49:09,910 --> 02:49:08,000
going with susan gao

4483
02:49:11,670 --> 02:49:09,920
and i'll tell you why oh really yeah

4484
02:49:14,790 --> 02:49:11,680
susan i've been saying

4485
02:49:18,070 --> 02:49:14,800
i've been saying susan gao uh

4486
02:49:19,670 --> 02:49:18,080
for four years and uh

4487
02:49:21,830 --> 02:49:19,680
and that's the way i heard it in the

4488
02:49:24,550 --> 02:49:21,840
beginning it's in my brain

4489
02:49:26,469 --> 02:49:24,560
i'm i'm going with susan gao if she

4490
02:49:29,670 --> 02:49:26,479
calls and corrects me

4491
02:49:33,269 --> 02:49:29,680
she knows my email right if

4492
02:49:35,670 --> 02:49:33,279
if it's susan goff as in cough

4493
02:49:38,630 --> 02:49:35,680
then uh she can say it but i'm going

4494
02:49:41,750 --> 02:49:38,640
with susan gal but anyway go ahead

4495
02:49:42,630 --> 02:49:41,760
so last night i i called and i i pointed

4496
02:49:44,230 --> 02:49:42,640
out uh

4497
02:49:46,389 --> 02:49:44,240
you know how there are few pilots that

4498
02:49:46,950 --> 02:49:46,399
have come forward i got a lot of slack

4499
02:49:49,990 --> 02:49:46,960
for that

4500
02:49:51,830 --> 02:49:50,000
from my buddies um and i just wanted to

4501
02:49:53,269 --> 02:49:51,840
highlight a few things especially when

4502
02:49:55,510 --> 02:49:53,279
ruse said today

4503
02:49:56,469 --> 02:49:55,520
that you know and he really pressed it

4504
02:49:59,269 --> 02:49:56,479
you know how

4505
02:50:00,630 --> 02:49:59,279
impossible it has been for these folk to

4506
02:50:03,750 --> 02:50:00,640
have come forward

4507
02:50:07,190 --> 02:50:03,760
um in fear of you know

4508
02:50:08,630 --> 02:50:07,200
uh retaliation and i also wanted to

4509
02:50:10,469 --> 02:50:08,640
point out the reason why

4510
02:50:12,230 --> 02:50:10,479
you know i think we have fravor you know

4511
02:50:16,070 --> 02:50:12,240
and company you know uh

4512
02:50:19,590 --> 02:50:16,080
and the uh uh and the main view

4513
02:50:21,830 --> 02:50:19,600
is due to the uh 2017

4514
02:50:22,790 --> 02:50:21,840
navy video leaks and that laid a

4515
02:50:26,389 --> 02:50:22,800
foundation

4516
02:50:29,910 --> 02:50:26,399
for these guys to come forward um and

4517
02:50:32,070 --> 02:50:29,920
there's not many instances where we have

4518
02:50:33,590 --> 02:50:32,080
you know footage and you know we have

4519
02:50:36,550 --> 02:50:33,600
radar techs

4520
02:50:37,990 --> 02:50:36,560
and whatnot to surround a whole event so

4521
02:50:41,429 --> 02:50:38,000
this is very unique

4522
02:50:44,630 --> 02:50:41,439
and so uh the point is a lot of the

4523
02:50:46,150 --> 02:50:44,640
public who are just getting into ufos

4524
02:50:47,510 --> 02:50:46,160
one of the things that they point out

4525
02:50:49,349 --> 02:50:47,520
are where are the pilots where the

4526
02:50:51,590 --> 02:50:49,359
pilots i just think it's

4527
02:50:52,950 --> 02:50:51,600
uh it would be good for us trying to

4528
02:50:55,910 --> 02:50:52,960
find a way to articulate

4529
02:50:56,950 --> 02:50:55,920
in an easy way uh that you know that

4530
02:50:59,510 --> 02:50:56,960
concept

4531
02:51:00,150 --> 02:50:59,520
but uh yeah it's explainable that why

4532
02:51:02,070 --> 02:51:00,160
there

4533
02:51:03,670 --> 02:51:02,080
you know not so many pilots have come

4534
02:51:04,150 --> 02:51:03,680
forward and i didn't want to piss

4535
02:51:06,150 --> 02:51:04,160
anybody

4536
02:51:07,190 --> 02:51:06,160
off which i ended up doing no no you

4537
02:51:10,790 --> 02:51:07,200
didn't you didn't

4538
02:51:14,150 --> 02:51:10,800
uh look uh i

4539
02:51:20,309 --> 02:51:17,670
yeah jumped on me yeah uh yeah

4540
02:51:21,990 --> 02:51:20,319
you know what uh but i know i i i none

4541
02:51:26,070 --> 02:51:22,000
of that i cleared it up

4542
02:51:29,110 --> 02:51:26,080
yeah none of that matters um let me just

4543
02:51:32,469 --> 02:51:29,120
let me say this and let me be very clear

4544
02:51:35,990 --> 02:51:32,479
lose said tonight and and i do

4545
02:51:39,190 --> 02:51:36,000
i do believe lou lou um

4546
02:51:40,790 --> 02:51:39,200
uh has got a circle of people around him

4547
02:51:43,990 --> 02:51:40,800
to support him

4548
02:51:47,269 --> 02:51:44,000
and uh the men and women

4549
02:51:49,110 --> 02:51:47,279
in the service uh at any level you know

4550
02:51:53,110 --> 02:51:49,120
could be a pilot or

4551
02:51:55,990 --> 02:51:53,120
or a crew member um they trust him

4552
02:51:57,510 --> 02:51:56,000
okay there's that part but the other

4553
02:52:00,870 --> 02:51:57,520
side of it

4554
02:52:04,389 --> 02:52:00,880
is if you are a pilot and you are in

4555
02:52:06,790 --> 02:52:04,399
the service right now that's it's a

4556
02:52:09,830 --> 02:52:06,800
tough thing to come forward

4557
02:52:13,030 --> 02:52:09,840
you you you you work for

4558
02:52:15,510 --> 02:52:13,040
the government and and stepping out

4559
02:52:16,309 --> 02:52:15,520
and and speaking about this without

4560
02:52:19,510 --> 02:52:16,319
permission

4561
02:52:21,030 --> 02:52:19,520
because the military has their own laws

4562
02:52:24,550 --> 02:52:21,040
and their own protocol

4563
02:52:25,830 --> 02:52:24,560
that's it so you can't expect an active

4564
02:52:27,750 --> 02:52:25,840
service member

4565
02:52:29,110 --> 02:52:27,760
to step out and discuss this subject

4566
02:52:29,750 --> 02:52:29,120
without permission they're not going to

4567
02:52:33,590 --> 02:52:29,760
do it and

4568
02:52:35,990 --> 02:52:33,600
if they did and they broke protocol um

4569
02:52:36,630 --> 02:52:36,000
uh you are due as you're told that's it

4570
02:52:40,550 --> 02:52:36,640
that's it

4571
02:52:43,349 --> 02:52:40,560
not civilian life

4572
02:52:45,349 --> 02:52:43,359
um and if you did break protocol and and

4573
02:52:47,190 --> 02:52:45,359
you came out and spoke about this

4574
02:52:50,150 --> 02:52:47,200
you would have to deal with that on the

4575
02:52:52,790 --> 02:52:50,160
inside i i just don't see that happening

4576
02:52:53,349 --> 02:52:52,800
maybe i mean anything is possible once

4577
02:52:56,630 --> 02:52:53,359
you are

4578
02:52:58,950 --> 02:52:56,640
out of the service uh jed let me let me

4579
02:52:59,830 --> 02:52:58,960
finish though once you are out of the

4580
02:53:02,150 --> 02:52:59,840
service

4581
02:53:02,950 --> 02:53:02,160
that's a whole nother situation you're

4582
02:53:05,670 --> 02:53:02,960
not uh

4583
02:53:07,190 --> 02:53:05,680
employed by the military anymore that's

4584
02:53:09,269 --> 02:53:07,200
not where your paycheck is coming from

4585
02:53:10,870 --> 02:53:09,279
you don't have to answer to a commanding

4586
02:53:14,070 --> 02:53:10,880
officer

4587
02:53:17,990 --> 02:53:14,080
latrine

4588
02:53:21,110 --> 02:53:18,000
that you have to do that you can't say

4589
02:53:22,870 --> 02:53:21,120
no that's the way that it is

4590
02:53:24,389 --> 02:53:22,880
and most people in civilian life they

4591
02:53:25,190 --> 02:53:24,399
don't understand that they watch the

4592
02:53:28,870 --> 02:53:25,200
movies

4593
02:53:31,670 --> 02:53:28,880
but you don't understand uh how uh

4594
02:53:34,790 --> 02:53:31,680
the reality is in that world i'm a

4595
02:53:36,790 --> 02:53:34,800
military brat i i grew up with it but

4596
02:53:38,150 --> 02:53:36,800
once you are out that's a whole other

4597
02:53:41,190 --> 02:53:38,160
thing so

4598
02:53:45,830 --> 02:53:41,200
um going back to dave fravor

4599
02:53:48,870 --> 02:53:45,840
um i read this way before ttsa

4600
02:53:54,230 --> 02:53:48,880
um um i had read paco's

4601
02:54:02,710 --> 02:53:58,950
about the uh original tic tac incident

4602
02:54:03,910 --> 02:54:02,720
and this was done um paco's website is a

4603
02:54:06,230 --> 02:54:03,920
group of

4604
02:54:07,429 --> 02:54:06,240
of friends that are all pilots

4605
02:54:09,670 --> 02:54:07,439
ex-military

4606
02:54:11,269 --> 02:54:09,680
maybe some are current but that's what

4607
02:54:12,550 --> 02:54:11,279
they do and they just get together and

4608
02:54:15,110 --> 02:54:12,560
they share stories

4609
02:54:17,990 --> 02:54:15,120
and paco was like and then there was

4610
02:54:21,910 --> 02:54:18,000
this ufo story you know with the nimitz

4611
02:54:22,550 --> 02:54:21,920
and and uh and that's where i read about

4612
02:54:25,429 --> 02:54:22,560
fravor

4613
02:54:26,389 --> 02:54:25,439
in the beginning and i remember way back

4614
02:54:29,830 --> 02:54:26,399
then

4615
02:54:33,269 --> 02:54:29,840
um looking up uh fravor

4616
02:54:37,110 --> 02:54:33,279
finding him on imdb

4617
02:54:40,469 --> 02:54:37,120
and he had appeared in a tv show

4618
02:54:45,030 --> 02:54:40,479
right some reality show about pilots

4619
02:54:48,070 --> 02:54:45,040
and and he was landing at night

4620
02:54:50,950 --> 02:54:48,080
um uh and was probably

4621
02:54:52,070 --> 02:54:50,960
the nimitz um landing on an aircraft

4622
02:54:55,110 --> 02:54:52,080
carrier at night

4623
02:54:58,309 --> 02:54:55,120
and in in in in challenging

4624
02:54:58,950 --> 02:54:58,319
uh circumstances and and there he was

4625
02:55:02,230 --> 02:54:58,960
and i

4626
02:55:03,349 --> 02:55:02,240
i knew about fravor before all of this

4627
02:55:05,830 --> 02:55:03,359
blew up

4628
02:55:07,349 --> 02:55:05,840
and it was all from paco's website i

4629
02:55:08,070 --> 02:55:07,359
can't remember the name of the website

4630
02:55:11,269 --> 02:55:08,080
now

4631
02:55:13,110 --> 02:55:11,279
but um but then uh

4632
02:55:14,550 --> 02:55:13,120
and that was the version of fravor that

4633
02:55:16,630 --> 02:55:14,560
i was introduced to

4634
02:55:17,590 --> 02:55:16,640
everything else happened later and it

4635
02:55:20,630 --> 02:55:17,600
was after he

4636
02:55:22,550 --> 02:55:20,640
left the service so um

4637
02:55:24,389 --> 02:55:22,560
and that's where i think it's it's

4638
02:55:27,429 --> 02:55:24,399
always going to stay

4639
02:55:28,070 --> 02:55:27,439
and i really mean this jed uh how why we

4640
02:55:30,710 --> 02:55:28,080
don't have

4641
02:55:32,870 --> 02:55:30,720
thousands of pilots talking about this

4642
02:55:34,309 --> 02:55:32,880
most of them are still in the service

4643
02:55:37,510 --> 02:55:34,319
you know and that's i don't think that's

4644
02:55:40,070 --> 02:55:37,520
going to change not until they leave

4645
02:55:41,750 --> 02:55:40,080
and we see what's happening to luke so

4646
02:55:44,389 --> 02:55:41,760
you know that's just an example

4647
02:55:45,429 --> 02:55:44,399
uh uh one last thing on the topic of the

4648
02:55:48,230 --> 02:55:45,439
do you think he ever

4649
02:55:50,230 --> 02:55:48,240
debriefed obama because the timelines

4650
02:55:54,790 --> 02:55:50,240
match up

4651
02:55:57,510 --> 02:55:54,800
i don't know i would say no

4652
02:55:59,349 --> 02:55:57,520
i don't think he would be the one to do

4653
02:56:02,950 --> 02:55:59,359
that kind of

4654
02:56:06,070 --> 02:56:02,960
thing um that would come from

4655
02:56:09,190 --> 02:56:06,080
uh an intelligence agency uh

4656
02:56:11,510 --> 02:56:09,200
that would come from uh the dia

4657
02:56:13,110 --> 02:56:11,520
that would come from the cia maybe even

4658
02:56:15,670 --> 02:56:13,120
the fbi

4659
02:56:16,309 --> 02:56:15,680
but uh i don't think it would be lou but

4660
02:56:20,230 --> 02:56:16,319
i don't know

4661
02:56:22,309 --> 02:56:20,240
that yeah

4662
02:56:25,110 --> 02:56:22,319
thank you so much man i i gotta get out

4663
02:56:27,990 --> 02:56:25,120
of here jed thank you for the phone call

4664
02:56:28,710 --> 02:56:28,000
all right have a good one you too um

4665
02:56:33,429 --> 02:56:28,720
yeah

4666
02:56:35,910 --> 02:56:33,439
uh lou if you're listening did you ever

4667
02:56:37,429 --> 02:56:35,920
nah nah i think he would have said

4668
02:56:39,790 --> 02:56:37,439
something by now

4669
02:56:42,389 --> 02:56:39,800
could he could he is that part of a

4670
02:56:44,950 --> 02:56:42,399
security oath

4671
02:56:45,990 --> 02:56:44,960
maybe jed i got to say man that's a

4672
02:56:49,830 --> 02:56:46,000
pretty good question

4673
02:56:53,750 --> 02:56:49,840
want to uh reflect back

4674
02:56:56,950 --> 02:56:53,760
really quick uh to uh my opening rant

4675
02:57:00,710 --> 02:56:56,960
tonight on the show which is

4676
02:57:02,550 --> 02:57:00,720
uh uh what we started to talk about and

4677
02:57:04,710 --> 02:57:02,560
it was the flavor of everything with my

4678
02:57:09,190 --> 02:57:04,720
conversation tonight with lou

4679
02:57:11,349 --> 02:57:09,200
um this is not a point

4680
02:57:12,870 --> 02:57:11,359
in the conversation in the history of

4681
02:57:15,910 --> 02:57:12,880
ufology

4682
02:57:18,950 --> 02:57:15,920
to be backstabbing talking smack

4683
02:57:23,030 --> 02:57:18,960
trying to create issues that don't

4684
02:57:24,630 --> 02:57:23,040
exist uh out of self-importance or you

4685
02:57:27,349 --> 02:57:24,640
think that it's funny

4686
02:57:27,990 --> 02:57:27,359
you know to go and and post or or cause

4687
02:57:30,469 --> 02:57:28,000
issues

4688
02:57:31,750 --> 02:57:30,479
this isn't the time for that it's it's

4689
02:57:35,590 --> 02:57:31,760
not i've always

4690
02:57:38,710 --> 02:57:35,600
dealt with it um but it's not a partisan

4691
02:57:42,790 --> 02:57:38,720
issue it's not about this or

4692
02:57:45,990 --> 02:57:42,800
that it it's not um creating negativity

4693
02:57:48,070 --> 02:57:46,000
uh creating argument uh for

4694
02:57:49,190 --> 02:57:48,080
for clicks or you think that it's going

4695
02:57:51,830 --> 02:57:49,200
to be

4696
02:57:52,790 --> 02:57:51,840
something funny in a post or whatever or

4697
02:57:56,070 --> 02:57:52,800
statements

4698
02:58:00,070 --> 02:57:56,080
and that now is not the time and

4699
02:58:02,830 --> 02:58:00,080
an example of how this can go down

4700
02:58:04,150 --> 02:58:02,840
is what the department of defense has

4701
02:58:08,389 --> 02:58:04,160
done

4702
02:58:11,990 --> 02:58:08,399
which is the personal attacks at lu

4703
02:58:14,389 --> 02:58:12,000
uh deleting or suggesting

4704
02:58:15,030 --> 02:58:14,399
that allegedly his emails have been

4705
02:58:19,269 --> 02:58:15,040
deleted

4706
02:58:22,150 --> 02:58:19,279
then this falls right back down

4707
02:58:23,110 --> 02:58:22,160
creates an atmosphere inside of our

4708
02:58:25,830 --> 02:58:23,120
community

4709
02:58:27,510 --> 02:58:25,840
of angst and negativity and taking sides

4710
02:58:29,510 --> 02:58:27,520
and this is exactly how it

4711
02:58:31,030 --> 02:58:29,520
plays out it's playing out around the

4712
02:58:32,630 --> 02:58:31,040
world it's playing out across this

4713
02:58:34,790 --> 02:58:32,640
country

4714
02:58:37,110 --> 02:58:34,800
with any issue anything that you can

4715
02:58:40,150 --> 02:58:37,120
think of anything

4716
02:58:42,870 --> 02:58:40,160
in society right now is about divide

4717
02:58:43,269 --> 02:58:42,880
divide divide and i don't want to see

4718
02:58:46,550 --> 02:58:43,279
that

4719
02:58:50,550 --> 02:58:46,560
and

4720
02:58:52,790 --> 02:58:50,560
going to take

4721
02:58:54,710 --> 02:58:52,800
that position i want to thank lou

4722
02:58:57,510 --> 02:58:54,720
elizondo for coming in tonight

4723
02:58:59,750 --> 02:58:57,520
it was an absolute perfect amazing

4724
02:59:02,950 --> 02:58:59,760
conversation it got hot in here

4725
02:59:05,590 --> 02:59:02,960
it did i want to thank lou all right

4726
02:59:08,469 --> 02:59:05,600
and uh there you go fade to black's

4727
02:59:10,230 --> 02:59:08,479
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4728
02:59:11,990 --> 02:59:10,240
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4729
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4730
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4731
02:59:19,230 --> 02:59:16,080
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4732
02:59:21,030 --> 02:59:19,240
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4733
02:59:23,190 --> 02:59:21,040
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4734
02:59:24,950 --> 02:59:23,200
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4735
02:59:26,790 --> 02:59:24,960
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4736
02:59:29,990 --> 02:59:26,800
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4737
02:59:32,150 --> 02:59:30,000
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4738
02:59:33,510 --> 02:59:32,160
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4739
02:59:35,910 --> 02:59:33,520
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4740
02:59:37,670 --> 02:59:35,920
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4741
02:59:38,870 --> 02:59:37,680
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4742
02:59:40,469 --> 02:59:38,880
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4743
02:59:41,990 --> 02:59:40,479
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4744
02:59:43,110 --> 02:59:42,000
block of the game changer network i'm

4745
02:59:44,710 --> 02:59:43,120
your host jimmy church

4746
02:59:47,030 --> 02:59:44,720
tomorrow night right here ralph

4747
02:59:49,670 --> 02:59:47,040
blumenthal

4748
02:59:51,030 --> 02:59:49,680
him and leslie kane started all of this

4749
02:59:53,110 --> 02:59:51,040
back in

4750
02:59:54,230 --> 02:59:53,120
december of 2017 we're going to talk

4751
02:59:56,550 --> 02:59:54,240
about his new book

4752
02:59:58,309 --> 02:59:56,560
about john mack it is called the

4753
03:00:00,070 --> 02:59:58,319
believer

4754
03:00:02,950 --> 03:00:00,080
that's going down tomorrow night until

4755
03:00:22,830 --> 03:00:02,960
then i want everybody to be safe

4756
03:00:22,840 --> 03:00:30,070
so

4757
03:00:30,080 --> 03:00:36,830
[Music]

4758
03:00:36,840 --> 03:00:41,660
so